Can we win the Premier League again under Wenger ?

[Dein-machine]

Where do you get this long term policy from. There was never a suggestion from Fitzman or Wenger ( during the Emirates announcements ) that we would face " 10 years of non-competing" whilst we paid off the stadium debt. We had just been in a Champions league final & the Emirates was supposed to cement us being one of Europe's top clubs.

Letters - please stop you're monthly running battle with Zim on who' the worst wummer & answer the above. You very good at responding to posts not aimed at you but a bit "choosey" on those that are. Maybe I'm wrong, you may know something I & others don't about the "long term" policy which would be interesting for us all to here.

[Dein-machine]

For someone who doesnt know Arsene you sure as hell are fixated with devotion to him. Yes the stadium may have hindered our finances but only in relation to Chelsea and the 2 Manc clubs. In rrelation to everyone else we still had greater spending power. In fact from the minute we opened the stadium in 2006 we were better of in overall revenue compared to the prior year at Highbury. So yes the stadium move was desirable and few would belittle the decision. The only part most take exception to is your exaggerating the effect that it stopped us buying the quality we need. Wenger chose to keep buying kids, no one forced him to. He does this because it keeps buying him time. Kids will wait 4-5 years before lamenting about a lack of silverware, especially when they make the grade quality wise. Buying proven players at prime age 25-27 puts the manager under pressure because they will start looking elsewhere after only 2 seasons. It is no coincidence that Cesc and RVP gave up on the Wenger project when they did. Like i said earlier, Wengers projects have no term date. When it goes belly up. He simply presses the reset buttton and starts all over again. The quality players however will keep jumping ship with each failed cycle. Just watch end of this season what comes from the Ozil and Sanchez camps when we lift the 3rd or 4th place trophy and possibly the Letters cup for a 3rd time running.

- Seroiusly, the likes of Letter, Dougie & Herbie included - can any of us really not see that Global has summed it all up. Does anyone need Sanchez & Ozil to leave before they see the light?

[Kano]

http://swissramble.blogspot.co.uk/20...verything.html

This guy has been on top of things for years and as he sums up at the end, there has always been more money available than Wenger has been willing to use. Of course we couldn't spend like we can now when we moved but we benefited from the move financially and increased the coffers - unfortunately Wenger was also very idealistic about the kids project which was just as damaging as the stadium move in the short term. As PHW said himself before the move "We are taking on a large financial debt, but the extra revenue we are generating from the stadium will more than cover that debt." But at the same time we had to move stadium and we had to do it when we got the green light because you don't hang around once you get planning permission.

[Letters]

I know

It's good the level of debate is so higg on here


I did start it that time, to be fair

[Letters]

stfu, Letters! Like you haven't said something similar.

Note the probably. And it would be obvious to anyone that it's more satisfying to develop a player than to buy the finished product, where's the skill in that?
I don't repeatedly pontificate about what Wenger thinks and feels with no other basis than my little vendetta against the man (a vendetta which, frankly, makes no sense at all)

[Letters]

Letters - please stop you're monthly running battle with Zim on who' the worst wummer & answer the above. You very good at responding to posts not aimed at you but a bit "choosey" on those that are. Maybe I'm wrong, you may know something I & others don't about the "long term" policy which would be interesting for us all to here.

Any building project of that scale is obviously, with the initial level of debt it involves, going to yield results longer term.
I'm sure back in the day they weren't shouting from the rooftops that we would be somewhat restricted financially in the short term but it should have been obvious.
Long term it was clearly the right thing to do.

[PGFC]

To the OP, yes, probably, but it still won't make him popular on GW, gosh the sleep that man must lose with that hanging over him.

[Power n Glory]

Note the probably. And it would be obvious to anyone that it's more satisfying to develop a player than to buy the finished product, where's the skill in that?
I don't repeatedly pontificate about what Wenger thinks and feels with no other basis than my little vendetta against the man (a vendetta which, frankly, makes no sense at all)

Thin. You're splitting hairs over language but what you're saying about Wenger's preference for developing youth over established talent isn't miles away from Zim's argument.

Edit: Also, aren't you also presuming what Wenger feels in that post?

[Power n Glory]

http://swissramble.blogspot.co.uk/20...verything.html

This guy has been on top of things for years and as he sums up at the end, there has always been more money available than Wenger has been willing to use. Of course we couldn't spend like we can now when we moved but we benefited from the move financially and increased the coffers - unfortunately Wenger was also very idealistic about the kids project which was just as damaging as the stadium move in the short term. As PHW said himself before the move "We are taking on a large financial debt, but the extra revenue we are generating from the stadium will more than cover that debt." But at the same time we had to move stadium and we had to do it when we got the green light because you don't hang around once you get planning permission.

We agree on that. We haven't made the most of our resources and Wenger has used Chelsea, City and the stadium to excuse the lack of spending. A major gripe I have with him is the way he defended a ticket price hike and made out as if it were necessary to compete with our rivals. That was totally false.

[Dein-machine]

Any building project of that scale is obviously, with the initial level of debt it involves, going to yield results longer term.
I'm sure back in the day they weren't shouting from the rooftops that we would be somewhat restricted financially in the short term but it should have been obvious.
Long term it was clearly the right thing to do.

It is also obvious that we would have taken solid financial advice before the Emirates move to know that the project was achievable whilst allowing us to continue to compete at the top level. This would have included building in a figure each year to acquire top class players in order to compete. This Wenger didn't do.
Instead he used the new stadium plus the new Chelsea sugar daddy as his excuse to become totally non-competitive whilst charging our fans the highest ticket prices in Europe. Knowing that he is bullet-proof at the club means he was under no pressure, he & the shareholders were happy to see the clubs wealth growing, continued top 4 finish with absolutely no real intention of becoming the great force in Europe that the Emirates dream was sold on.
When did he finally go & buy a world class player - after he was booed off the pitch at home to Villa & fans were threatening him personally. Anyone making a signing after the season has started hasn't done his job in the summer & is panic buying.