I'm pretty sure that when he (Rooney) played as a proper striker (not a number 10 or a midfielder like he has been lumped with as of late) scored 34 goals in 44 appearances (09/10) and 34 goals in 43 appearances (11/12).Originally Posted by Master Splinter
He'll score more than Giroud (easily) this season and is perceived to be the weakest out of Aguero/Costa/Rooney which is worrying. If we want to challenge we need a big time striker.
What are you basing that on? His scoring record has been awful the last three seasons, Giroud has outscored him in each.
(Goals to games ratio is marginally better for Giroud)
Thank you for clarifying how much he earns, I didn't know that before as no-one had ever mentioned it.
Rooney needs a new challenge and they should have let him go.
We were comfortably the better side but I agree we were a bit toothless up front. But it was one of those days in the sense that West Ham had 2 shots on target, both went in. How often does that happen?!
I was wondering about that - how often that happens. But I don't buy that the results of the first game are an indicator of anything. Clearly the side who wins the league hasn't lost many games so the chance of one of those being the first day is pretty low. I still don't buy it actually has any bearing on where the title ends up. If we're in the mix around Christmas and, better yet, around Easter, then I don't think the fact we lost the first game will be relevant. What we can't do is start like we did last year, 12 games in we were 15 points behind and had no chance. We have to pick up a few results and stay in touch from the start this year, then we have a chance.Once in the past 24 years has a team lost the first game and gone onto win the title and that was under Fergie. So the first game is a key indicator of where things go from there. We're good enough to challenge but the manager is not good enough to pull it all together anymore.
Sorry to upset you but it is Wenger i'm talking about not you. You do get a bit touchy.
Yes. I'm actually crying. Uhuh.
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What are people basing their renewed optimism with regards challenging for the title? An FA Cup win? Since last season very little has changed and we weren't good enough then, so why we suddenly become title chasers now when we've invested very little in the squad is a mystery to me, even more so when other clubs have invested more on trying to improve.
I think we'll find the season will pan out much like previous seasons, simply because we're only too happy to settle with what we have on the basis that they won a few games last season and had a decent run in some meaningless pre-season friendlies.
Unless we bring in a striker and perhaps a DM I think we'll fall short again, I've heard a lot about a new mentality, is this the mentality that has seen us capitulate in our first game of the season when expectations we're so high, if so it doesn't bode well.
I think that's doing West Ham a bit of a dis-service. Yeah, they may not have played fancy-pants football, but they defended better than us, won the midfield, and took both of their chances. They deserved the win.
We had quite a few half chances and blocked shots, but I don't think we were the better side, and certainly not comfortably better.
It's better to burn out, than to fade away.
Don't get too down Letters. Its hard when you are unable to see what everyone else can see & your hero's only summer signing has just had a mare. I'm sure we'll be up their again challenging the might of the Spuds, Southampton & Liverpool for that 4th place spot again.Yes. I'm actually crying. Uhuh.
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