Horrible comparison. Cazorla quite clearly is better technically than Cesc in any category you want.Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
- Two feet
- Faster feet
- Better close control
- More agile
- Better dribbler
- Can beat a man
- More flair
- Better one touch passer
- Better two touch passer
- Better three touch passer
- Better strike
Last edited by BOBN; 21-08-2015 at 02:32 PM.
Cazorla is a lot better than Cesc, hands down. In fact, I rate Cazorla higher than both Ozil and Cesc. At Arsenal, he is not big name enough to be given the no 10 role, otherwise he would have a truck load of assist and double figure goals as well.
somebody put something in my milk
No because he plays as a winger so he's running at wingbacks and hardly sees a centreback. Also, as a striker you don't need to be the type that is trying to mix up physically with a CB and contesting the ball in the air. Plenty of short strikers have developed their game without having to play the battering ram.
Has Theo ever scored a hat trick as striker? Yes. Has Giroud?
Syn said Cesc was a key player not the key reason. It's also dumb to say Costa was the only reason and not Cesc because you don't know how Costa would have played without Cesc's assists. Have you seen him for Spain? They're not a team short on creating chances either. Not saying Costa is crap but he's not some one man dynamic striker that can survive without service. Yes, Chelsea were creating chances before but Cesc added to that and was top of the league with assists and he was assisting Cosa for a lot of those goals.. It's really simple. Even Chelsea team mates will say both players were important.
Baptista has a hattrick..
Arsene Wenger, the only football manager that got paid 8 million quid to do nothing but sit on his arse..
He's blessed with talent but he's not had a season for us where he's carried us or everything has ran through him. That's partly down to the manager messing with his position and pushing him to the flank but imo he's not a player that's racked up a silly assist count as well as goals. In Cesc best season he got 19 goals and 20 assists. We need that from Santi before I can firmly say he's better and I'd say Cesc played with weaker players to get those numbers and be so influential. We'll see how Santi fairs playing in the middle but I can't see him even getting there with players like Ozil also chipping in.
Does that reflect well on Giroud? Theo has 3 and 2 have come when playing as striker. West Brom and Newcastle. Just saying there is something there to explore. If he flops he flops but so far he's looking good and just needs to learn certain aspects and tactics against different opposition. It's no different to having Santi learn how to play CM or Ramsey go out wide so I don't know why Wenger is so resistant. Way too opposed with over long tippy tappy passing in front of our opponents and just enables them to create to lines of 4 in front of us.
in the Arsenal system, there is one striker. We need that striker to be able to hold the ball. Was Thierry a battering ram? no, but he could hold the ball up for Pires and Freddie.
Theo cant do that and is just not capable of it.
never said he was. What I said is that Chelsea were creating bucketloads of chances before Cesc arrived. It wasnt Cesc that turned them into champions, it was Costa. Cesc was the cherry on top.
Theo played center forward against Chelsea in the Community Shield and Chelsea pinned the team in because Theo was not a good outlet.
And Santi played CM for Malaga.
Football has changed since Henry and Pires if that's your best example. If I went off those times we'd never have slight players like Cesc, Cazorla or Ozil in our midfield because the same arguments about needing to be physical in this leaue would apply.
Theo might not be capable of holding up the ball like a bigger player but has that stopped him scoring from that position or stopped Ozil and Cazorla from getting him the ball? Explain how's been able to get two hat tricks and was also involved with the goal that got Wenger his first win against Mourinho?
But would we have won against Chelsea if we employed the same tactics that have have resulted in a loss or draw every time against Mourinho? We won at the end of the day and he helped set up the goal. You can't knock it. It might have been a tactic to not pin a team like that back and be open for the counter because it's how they've destroyed us before.
Santi played on the left for Malaga and would cut in.
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