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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    The thing is Letters we can't gauge how well we are doing by how other teams are doing, what matters and what only matters is how we perform.
    No, the only thing that matters is results.
    You cannot on the one hand dismiss our chances by citing our performances and results thus far and take Chelsea seriously as contenders when theirs have been worse.

    Actually, nothing can sensibly be concluded thus far. We're 4 games in, the table won't properly take shape until a bit later and even then things can change as teams go on runs or have poor patches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Our finishing, or lack of it, is a different and extra problem. But without Ozil we can't seem to pass. Our passing today was as bad as I have even seen it. Ramsey in particular was horrendous. I'm trying to figure out how we have managed to get a lot worse since last season with the same squad. There were times last season when we looked like a team. So far this season there hasn't been a hint of that. That's before we get to the terrible finishing and the goal ratio of 1 to every 100 chances. We need a striker, Wenger has done his £1 extra for Suarez and now his Benzema routine. Sanogo is who we actually got and Walcott and Bif could have peppered an empty net today for hours on end and not scored a goal.

    Another worrying sight, Alexis is still running his guts out but he is becoming less and less effective on each outing. I think Wenger has found a way to neutralise him.
    Worryingly our passing has been worse against West Ham this season, never mind as far as last season. I didn't think it was too bad today....I just really think the whole team needs to put one lamb to the slaughter and properly get the season under way. Yes we need firepower too....proper firepower, but I thought that way before, just before and just after the season started.

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    No, the only thing that matters is results.
    There are 1,001 other things that matter in order to get the results. You absolutely *can* judge the 4 performances we've put in so far. This nonsense about the table taking shape later, well these 4 games will count towards that table and the performances we've put in so far will contribute towards how we press on with the season. So you can judge a lot and it all counts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blink 1nce Quince 2wice View Post
    Worryingly our passing has been worse against West Ham this season, never mind as far as last season. I didn't think it was too bad today....I just really think the whole team needs to put one lamb to the slaughter and properly get the season under way. Yes we need firepower too....proper firepower, but I thought that way before, just before and just after the season started.
    The slow start - it was the one thing we couldn't afford (apart from any signings). We've done it again. This is Wenger's job, isn't it? To prepare the squad and have them ready to go at the starting gun. Two seasons in a row where he's failed. How does he keep his job? It can only be because our board doesn't care about the football results and only have eyes for the financial results. We lack that streak of ruthlessness that all sporting winners have. Throughout the club, from top to bottom, we are soft. Ruthless on the finances though, I'll give then that.
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    Sanchez I have sympathy with him on.....but the rest of them?

    The officiating in the last few games hasn't helped though and perhaps might have changed the complexion of both the last 2 games. In regards to the firepower, we can't all agree on whether Benzema or Cavani or whoever are of the requisite quality amongst us on this board which goes some way in highlighting the dearth of quality around. It's a bit of a worry as I don't see it being a whole lot better next summer but we're going to have to hope something obscure or within our means comes up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    The chavs had won the title then, so it was "understandable" we'd ease off (just like the gypos didn't).
    But man City didnt have an FA Cup final to think about.
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    Not a great performance, but we are nicely poised behind the leaders. This season, more than any other going on results so far, points towards more `mid table, bottom end` teams taking points off the top teams. apart from City, who do look very good at this point, I dont think any team is excelling. United look average, their defence is woeful, keeper dodgy. Chavs look shite all over the pitch tbh, Pool have looked very dodgy. Spurs are the usual cack. There have been lots of 1-0 wins, none, apart from city have excelled. There is a long way to go, our defence and goal looks solid, midfield has been creating chances, all we need to do is start scoring.
    Im not giving up hope yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    No, the only thing that matters is results.
    You cannot on the one hand dismiss our chances by citing our performances and results thus far and take Chelsea seriously as contenders when theirs have been worse.

    Actually, nothing can sensibly be concluded thus far. We're 4 games in, the table won't properly take shape until a bit later and even then things can change as teams go on runs or have poor patches.
    You can't compare us to a team and manager that have title winning credentials. That's why it's daft to compare us to Chelsea or City. They can start poorly but because of their recent history you can presume they will be in the hunt for the title. We start poorly, what have we got to base any potential turn around on? There is nothing except hope which is completely unmeasurable. Comparing us to Chelsea's start is pointless. Everyone knows they have the potential to get their shit together and grind their way back into things if necessary.
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