Straw menOriginally Posted by Globalgunner
It's so easy to win arguments when you lie about the other person's position.
Straw men
It's so easy to win arguments when you lie about the other person's position.
No we haven't.
This is why you're retarded.Winning arguments by declaring yourself right, the tactics of an intellectual giant as always...
So you think those quotes above are reasonable and rational responses to the first game of the season?
Forget the last 10 years, the last 2 years we've won the FA Cup, last year we also finished above everyone apart from the two billionaire-fuelled teams. There is some cause for optimism. And you think those quotes are a reasonable, logical assessment?
I think we have, we've played pretty poorly and already lost and drawn a game (both at home, somewhat lucky not to lose to Liverpool as well) and got lucky against Palace. We haven't got a hope of winning the title, that much is clear.
It was only the other day you were telling me what I thought and what I believed. For a while I took you seriously but ended up not being able to live with myself, so I rebelled and formed my own opinions.Winning arguments by declaring yourself right, the tactics of an intellectual giant as always...
So you think those quotes above are reasonable and rational responses to the first game of the season?
Forget the last 10 years, the last 2 years we've won the FA Cup, last year we also finished above everyone apart from the two billionaire-fuelled teams. There is some cause for optimism. And you think those quotes are a reasonable, logical assessment?
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. OK, so unable to debate the point you just resort to insults.
But yeah, I'm the WUM...
Hell of a brass neck considering Cripps was banned for this.Straw men
It's so easy to win arguments when you lie about the other person's position.
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I think we've played poorly too - until Saturday which was much better - but the results have been fine, we're way above Chelsea and only City have hit the ground running so no, nothing is clear yet. As I said earlier in this thread - well, someone else said and I agreed - the Chelsea game is key. They're there for the taking right now but our record against them is awful. Hopefully the Community Shield result will have got that monkey off our back. We could almost kill off their title chances which makes me think we won't. A draw wouldn't be a terrible result, a win would, in my mind, show we're serious contenders this year.
The problem is, you are unable to debate the point. As has been said, the point has been stated 10,372,448 times, but you still don't register it let alone debate it. I wouldn't have called you retarded, personally. I'd have probably settled for something more political, like "resolute", or "committed" (not literally committed)
But yeah, I'm the WUM...
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I've done it repeatedly in the last few pages, the usual suspects have just resorted to personal jibes and insults.
The "point" seems to be "the last 10 years" but that "point" makes no sense when things change constantly in football, the new financial deals have seen a new level of signing and those players have clearly made a difference. Belittle the FA Cup all you like but it's a start and 3rd and the FA Cup last year is a pretty decent season. Yes, we need to push on and challenge for the biggest prizes, yes the lack of a major signing up front will hamper our chances. But over-reacting after 1 game makes no sense. 5 games in and we're doing OK, Saturday was a good performance. Lose the Chelsea game and yes, it's back to square one but FFS give the lads a chance.
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