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    The fact that Cazorla was captain today says it all about the personalities in our team. Who else is there if Merts is out? Coq doesn't need that put on his shoulders yet with all the work he has to do. Cech has only been here five minutes. Ramsey, Alexis, Bellerin Ozil, Kos, Theo? No way. Maybe Monreal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kano View Post
    Gabriel was stupid to do that in front of the ref, especially a dick that Dean. Just bide his time and get his sneaky revenge later. Any of our old defenders would've done the same, or midfielders. At half time can you imagine Keown, Vieira, Lehmann just walking off quietly? They would've been right in that pricks face. Get him to react and sent off. Our old teams used to stand up for each other, not look at the floor when it's kicking off. Fire themselves up at half time by winding up Costa, jostling a few players, don't just trudge off. We have a very likeable bunch of guys, but who wants that? You can pinpoint several wankers in other teams based on how they conduct themselves on the pitch. We used to be hated. Not just because of our success but because we were niggly little bastards too. It is so much a part and parcel of being successful. The little, snide things that fire you up, gain little advantages and get under the skin of the opposition and fans. It happens in any sport you can think of. As soon as that side of our game left he squad with the last of the Invincibles, we stopped winning. There are short memories about how rough and ready we could be back in the day.
    I wouldn't say short memories about that squad. Although agree about the complete wimps we have in our squad, I think a better ref would have handled that game in a different way. It's not just the lack of dirty bustard, it's the overall lack of leadership. Something that's been said a lot before. Besides not standing up for ourselves, somebody needed to slap Cazorla, Ramsey and Ozil. They had really poor games. But I get what your saying and it is one of many problems we have at this club.

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    It's just the right personalities isn't it? You usually get good leaders who are happy to use underhand tactics alongside their vocal and physical attributes. Something else Wenger used to be good at identifying. But as you say, one of many problems in this squad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kano View Post
    Gabriel was stupid to do that in front of the ref, especially a dick that Dean. Just bide his time and get his sneaky revenge later. Any of our old defenders would've done the same, or midfielders. At half time can you imagine Keown, Vieira, Lehmann just walking off quietly? They would've been right in that pricks face. Get him to react and sent off. Our old teams used to stand up for each other, not look at the floor when it's kicking off. Fire themselves up at half time by winding up Costa, jostling a few players, don't just trudge off. We have a very likeable bunch of guys, but who wants that? You can pinpoint several wankers in other teams based on how they conduct themselves on the pitch. We used to be hated. Not just because of our success but because we were niggly little bastards too. It is so much a part and parcel of being successful. The little, snide things that fire you up, gain little advantages and get under the skin of the opposition and fans. It happens in any sport you can think of. As soon as that side of our game left he squad with the last of the Invincibles, we stopped winning. There are short memories about how rough and ready we could be back in the day.


    Looking at how much the team dynamics have changed over the last decade is pretty sad if I'm honest.

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    Wenger doesnt want characters. I have said it several times. The first player he got rid of was Wrighty. Why, i guess because he was mouthy and independent minded.
    Slowly he has weaned the team of these fiery combative types. Leaving us with petulant easily cowed types like Fabregas who ironically is becoming a scrote under Mourinho.

    It is no coincidence that we have failed to challenge for big trophies since

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Loblaw View Post
    I have very little positive to say about our prospects and repetition of the same mistakes and failures over and over.

    But today, there is no way you can come to a conclusion other than we have been fucked over by the ref.

    The Invincibles at the zenith of their powers would have lost today.
    And therein lies the problem, or a problem.

    I'm an idealist. I like to think the best of people. And maybe that's naive but I still like to think it.
    I like to think that referees aren't corrupt. If they are then what's the point?
    But in the first of our two Cup Finals of late when we got back to 2-2 we were denied about 4 penalties, 2 maybe 3 of which were stonewall. We got there in the end but it did seem like the ref was doing all he could to stop us.

    I didn't see today's game as I was on the plane home but from what I've heard we were holding our own and then got completely fucked over by the ref. And while we're all Arsenal fans and thus hardly neutral, I saw Garth Crooks say pretty much the same.

    So...yeah, we can replace Wenger and that may fix some repeated mistakes (although the new guy will have flaws too) but while the billionaires are spunking left, right and centre and refs are doing this sort of thing I don't care who the manager is, winning the league will be next to impossible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Douglas Reynholm View Post
    It's sad, isn't it? It's something we've spent our whole lives following. People. places, jobs, all come and go, but The Arsenal has always been there. But when you come to the realisation that this isn't really sport any more, that the cards are stacked against us... I just don't know any more. There's always been a nagging doubt at the back of my mind. It's like wrestling now. Sure, it's entertaining, but it's not really a competition.
    That pretty much sums up my thoughts. About an hour ago I called my mate up to talk about that refereeing performance. He had the match recorded but heard the score and thought it was just another Arsenal capitulation, which was surprising given he is quite the Wengerite.

    He was pretty surprised to hear my take on things because no matter how much I'll always appreciate what Wenger has done in the past, I am to put it mildly, not a Wengerite today.

    I put my mate straight about what happened today, but at the end of the call, instead of feeling better having got it off my chest, I feel fucking sick.

    And over the next few days it will get worse. Because the fucking frauds that run the game are going to come after us again, no doubt for bringing the game into disrepute. Can you imagine that? The crooks that corrupt our game will have the gall to do that rather than deal with the real cancel infecting this sport.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kano View Post
    The fact that Cazorla was captain today says it all about the personalities in our team. Who else is there if Merts is out? Coq doesn't need that put on his shoulders yet with all the work he has to do. Cech has only been here five minutes. Ramsey, Alexis, Bellerin Ozil, Kos, Theo? No way. Maybe Monreal?
    We could have got a certain nasty, vicious cunt who also happens to be an outstanding footballer for £28mill and £90kpw but he didn't have enough quality. Hasn't taken lomg for the penny pinching to bite us in the arse. Goals and balls is what we needed to buy in during the summer. But it was impossible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Loblaw View Post
    That pretty much sums up my thoughts. About an hour ago I called my mate up to talk about that refereeing performance. He had the match recorded but heard the score and thought it was just another Arsenal capitulation, which was surprising given he is quite the Wengerite.

    He was pretty surprised to hear my take on things because no matter how much I'll always appreciate what Wenger has done in the past, I am to put it mildly, not a Wengerite today.

    I put my mate straight about what happened today, but at the end of the call, instead of feeling better having got it off my chest, I feel fucking sick.

    And over the next few days it will get worse. Because the fucking frauds that run the game are going to come after us again, no doubt for bringing the game into disrepute. Can you imagine that? The crooks that corrupt our game will have the gall to do that rather than deal with the real cancel infecting this sport.
    That legendary investigative journalist Ashton has already started the ball rolling. The bad old Arsenal that lacks discipline is back - apparently. I'd love to meet this guy so I could show him what indiscipline really is.
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    Maureen's vision of the beautiful game:

    "If you want to speak about Diego Costa, he plays like he has to play and that is why you have full stadiums and you sell the game to television around the world for millions, because the game has to be played like that."
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