Fabregas goes to Barca for £35million

[Coney]

i hold no blame to wenger over this transfer. barca fucked around, they didnt bid, but instead spouted bollocks in the press about how we holding him hostage etc. arsenal wanted forty barca were bidding around 25 etc i think wenger just had enough and rather then have a player held when he wanted to go just said accept 30 and be done with it. you cannot blame wenger for that imo, barca fucked around, if htey had just bid sensibly it would have been over by july

I think this is right and I don't blame Wenger for either the Cesc or Nasri fiascos. Nasri was going and given the player was going at the end of the year anyway, the money we got was a good deal. (Selling to a PL rival like Citeh was not important as, if they could not have had him, they would have just spent whatever it took to buy a player of a similar or better standard, which would make no difference to us in our PL pretentions). The Cesc thing has been flogged to death and we know it was a question of what we could screw out of Barca which was limited by the fact that no other club was in for buying him, nor ever would be.

However....

What I do blame Wenger/TheBoard/ThePowersThatBeAtTheArsenal for is not securing the defensive players that we needed at an earlier stage. While we might have still left it late to buy Arteta and Benny until we confirmed Cesc/Nasri were going this window and not the next, we knew from the outset that we needed a striker, CB and LB and we should have got that done and dusted in the first few weeks, so that the defence would have a month and more of training together with the new defensive coach that we should also have bought. This would have made our start of season a damn sight better and we would likely have been half a dozen points better off. Certainly we would not be losing to shit like Blackburn and the manu result would have been less embarrassing - we might even have picked up a point or 3.

[Ollie the Optimist]

I think this is right and I don't blame Wenger for either the Cesc or Nasri fiascos. Nasri was going and given the player was going at the end of the year anyway, the money we got was a good deal. (Selling to a PL rival like Citeh was not important as, if they could not have had him, they would have just spent whatever it took to buy a player of a similar or better standard, which would make no difference to us in our PL pretentions). The Cesc thing has been flogged to death and we know it was a question of what we could screw out of Barca which was limited by the fact that no other club was in for buying him, nor ever would be.

However....

What I do blame Wenger/TheBoard/ThePowersThatBeAtTheArsenal is not securing the defensive players that we needed at an earlier stage. While we might have still left it late to but Arteta and Benny until we confirmed Cesc/Nasri were going this window and not the next, we knew from the outset that we needed a striker, CB and LB and we should have got that done and dusted in teh first few weeks, so that the defence would have a month and more of training together with the new defensive coach that we should also have bought. This would have made our start of season a damn site better and we would likely have been half a dozen points better off. Certainly we would not be losing to shit like Blackburn and the manu result would have been less embarrassing - we might even have picked up a point or 3.

top bit is spot on and the second part is too. wenger to blame for late signings etc but nasri and cesc, he is exempt from blame

[Cripps_orig]

Wenger convinced the board to accept Barca's offer. It's his own fault.

This

The only thing we can blame the board for here is how easy they bend over for Wenger almost as easily as Wenger bends over for Barca.

But majority of the blame for the piss poor price for Cesc is down to Wenger

[Ollie the Optimist]

This

The only thing we can blame the board for here is how easy they bend over for Wenger almost as easily as Wenger bends over for Barca.

But majority of the blame for the piss poor price for Cesc is down to Wenger

but nothing to with barca only offering a packet of crisps and whatever change is behind the sofa? you really do talk shit at times

[Cripps_orig]

but nothing to with barca only offering a packet of crisps and whatever change is behind the sofa? you really do talk shit at times

We didnt have to accept it though did we?

Seriously, you really should engage your brain before you type

[Ollie the Optimist]

We didnt have to accept it though did we?

Seriously, you really should engage your brain before you type

tbh we did, cesc wanted to go, he was shit last year, you could tell his heart was not here. why hold out for 40 million knowing we wont get it and have a disgruntled captain for another year. you kept telling cesc to fuck off, so it was right to sell him.

[Cripps_orig]

We would have got £40m. Barca would have paid eventually had Wenger not been a spineless cunt and bent over but then thats what the cunt does best.

Oh well

We got rid of the Poster Boy of Failure and now to get rid of the Cancer of Success in Wenger and then finally we can have our Arsenal back

[Ollie the Optimist]

We would have got £40m. Barca would have paid eventually had Wenger not been a spineless cunt and bent over but then thats what the cunt does best.

Oh well

We got rid of the Poster Boy of Failure and now to get rid of the Cancer of Success in Wenger and then finally we can have our Arsenal back

no they wouldnt have paid it. one they couldnt afford it apparently and two there was no one else to drive the price up. as soon as they started fucking around we knew they wouldnt pay much for him. wenger did the right thing and cannot be blamed for it

[Boss]

Wenger didn't do the right thing.

We were always going to get fucked over on the price, sure that can be accepted.

However waiting until after the season had already started to sell him and STILL getting ass fucked on the price was shocking management. Not to mention waiting till the last day of the season to replace him (with Arteta).

[Ollie the Optimist]

Wenger didn't do the right thing.

We were always going to get fucked over on the price, sure that can be accepted.

However waiting until after the season had already started to sell him and STILL getting ass fucked on the price was shocking management. Not to mention waiting till the last day of the season to replace him (with Arteta).

i have said that he fucked up after selling cesc by not replacing etc, that is his fault. but if barca didnt put in a sensible bid in till august waht can wenger do?