Is Wenger right about Walcott?

[Kano]

This is too easy.

[Letters]

This is too easy.

Like your mum?

[Kano]

If you like dead people sure, can't get easier than that.

[Power n Glory]

Letters, once again, digs himself into hole.

[GP]

Well, that would be the first step.

[IBK]

If people are being honest with themselves then we already know the answer to that - no he can't. He'll score goals, put in some good performances but if by this age he is still getting injured so much then it will remain that way for the rest of his career. Walcott is not a player we can rely on to build a strategy around.

And this is the crux of it - Wenger has altered his approach, but his perennial gambles with crocked players, and inactivity with transfers as a result is likely to sabotage it.

[mastermind84]

I know you're not comparing Bendy and Suarez as players but it's a bad comparison in terms of transfer risks. That should be obvious.

I will say it once again, I was not making a comparison.

The point I was making is that Bendtner's contract, and the other bad contracts that were signed, may have impeded Arsenal going at Suarez. The money that could go for a Suarez was being spent elsewhere.

Again, fan perception of a potential signing and what league they play in is totally irrelevant. That's for the scouts and manager to make a call on. Also we bought Giroud, Gervinho, Park and Chamakh from the French league. Clubs that have no history of a producing great talent like Ajax. That's a another bad point you've made. Santos came from the Turkish league. Jenkinson and Ox came from the Championship. If we as fans accepted them, I seriosuly doubt there would have been strong objections from fans because a player came from Ajax with that sort of record. You only had to watch a couple of games of him to see what sort of player he was. He had a very sketchy history, it got worse at Liverpool but it makes no sense that we moved in after he had gone to Liverpool and lead astray by those northern, feral, racists.

thats a bad point.

Ligue 1 has a proven record of providing the Premier League with talent the last 10-15 years. Suarez is the only attacker from the Eredivsie to light up England since... I wouldnt count van Persie since he was a kid. What Ajax did in the 80s and 90s has nothing to do with today.

We seeing a great product from PSV struggle at United right now. PSV has a great history of producing players as well, right?

Suarez was the goods, but if someone was apprehensive at spending 20 million+ on him I would get it.

But back to the original point. You say there were no players on the market we could afford at that time. I say you're wrong because I'm using Suarez's move to Liverpool as one example and also, the same year Liverpool bought Suarez, we bought Ox and Gervinho. That's the funds for that deal. £22m identified and we bought those two players early in the summer without having to sell. Gazidis also kept saying we had funds in the bank so I don't know how much more evidence you need. Can't always defend the indefensible. We just had a bad strategy.

Dont believe everything the club said. Actions speak louder than words and Wenger and Gazidis are now saying that there are more funds available than before.

The way you are talking, you think Suarez was a slam dunk in 2011 to be great. He wasnt. I think the club scouted poorly and has for a while, but I understand the Suarez apprehension.

[Power n Glory]

Ligue 1 has a proven record of providing the Premier League with talent the last 10-15 years. Suarez is the only attacker from the Eredivsie to light up England since... I wouldnt count van Persie since he was a kid. What Ajax did in the 80s and 90s has nothing to do with today.

Well this is getting silly. We bought Park from a relegated Monaco in the French league. Giroud used to play in Ligue 2 for a while. Santos came from the Turkish league. Ox was playing in the Championship and he had very little experience in that league as well. Yet you understand the apprehension to buying Suarez because he played for Ajax? You’d be making perfect sense if we weren’t a club that took risks on players, but as said, Gervinho and Ox alone totalled up to £22m. Maybe we dropped the ball on some players but we can’t make lame excuses for them.

[mastermind84]

Yet you understand the apprehension to buying Suarez because he played for Ajax?

no, I understand anyone having an apprehension of paying 22 million for an attacker from the Eredivsie back when 22 million was a huge sum. Thats what I have said over and over.


Giroud lead Ligue 1 in goals. Park was a nonsense signing that I never liked. Santos was a Brazilian international. Chamberlain had big English clubs chasing him.

[Power n Glory]

no, I understand anyone having an apprehension of paying 22 million for an attacker from the Eredivsie back when 22 million was a huge sum. Thats what I have said over and over.


Giroud lead Ligue 1 in goals. Park was a nonsense signing that I never liked. Santos was a Brazilian international. Chamberlain had big English clubs chasing him.

Santos a Brazilian International.

Suarez was a top goal scorer too. How do you miss a guy that scored 49 goals from 48 in 09/10?

Again, the excuses are silly. Let’s just say we had RVP and weren’t looking for a striker at the time. That makes more sense. But to try and discredit the Dutch league when we’re buying guys from the Championship division and Turkish league is quite remarkable. £22m is a risk but so is spending that combined total on a teenager who hasn’t developed as quickly as you’d like and a winger in the French league that you could see was a very flawed player from his days in France.

And Suarez wasn't an international?