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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    I don't know who brought it up, I'm thinking more likely the press.
    But that doesn't mean that's WHY he has that opinion or that he's wrong.
    He brought it up, he's been banging on about it for the past few weeks, the FA have got involved too as they want him to clarify his comments.

    I'm not saying he's wrong, it's his opinion albeit one that differs from the rules. So do you think he would have brought it up if we had beaten Dinamo Zagreb?

    IBK nailed it, Wenger has much bigger issues to deal with internally IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IBK View Post
    Because its difficult to sympathise with a manager pontificating on issues that he is indirectly saying put his team at a disadvantage, when at the same time he ignores some of the obvious issues within his own control that hamper us even more. I would far prefer he concentrated on addressing our lamentable and debilitating injury situation than getting side tracked on a doping debate that he cannot do anything about - which by the way Wenger himself chose to introduce in the first place.

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    Wenger's got an opinion on everything but generally it's thinly veiled dig as something which affected his team in some way, it's a shame he doesn't spend his focussing more on the important things like sorting out the problems with his team/squad, if he did we might have a team with more trophies under it's belt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by selassie View Post
    So do you think he would have brought it up if we had beaten Dinamo Zagreb?
    Maybe not but so what? What he's said is right and it's just ludicrous to think that him banging on about this (if he is) in any way affects his management of the club.

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    He is right that if one person is found doping then the club should be punished but they aren't the rules at the moment. However, I do find it odd that no one else is coming out and saying anything. Surely other managers have their suspicions. It cant just be Wenger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    Maybe not but so what? What he's said is right and it's just ludicrous to think that him banging on about this (if he is) in any way affects his management of the club.
    Well considering I've been directly linking his doping grievance to the defeat against Zagreb which I think is clearly linked to his stance on doping and the timing of his comments...pre-Zagreb return match.

    Wenger knows what he is doing here, he's just being clever about it!

    He has a point, I'm not saying he's being irritational but it is just his opinion, he has a right to say what he wants but I raised my annoyance with it mainly due to the circumstances which attributed to our defeat to Dinamo Zagreb...get the house in order first before looking for problems elsewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IBK View Post
    Because its difficult to sympathise with a manager pontificating on issues that he is indirectly saying put his team at a disadvantage, when at the same time he ignores some of the obvious issues within his own control that hamper us even more. I would far prefer he concentrated on addressing our lamentable and debilitating injury situation than getting side tracked on a doping debate that he cannot do anything about - which by the way Wenger himself chose to introduce in the first place.
    Spot on, drugs in sport is wrong but at the end of the day we have far superior player and far superior resources and financial power than Zagreb so should have beaten them at a canter. This one player having been found out hasn't changed the result, what caused it was complacency and lack of preparation.

    This isn't athletics where it's one man against the other, it's a team game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    Maybe not but so what? What he's said is right and it's just ludicrous to think that him banging on about this (if he is) in any way affects his management of the club.
    The man is full of excuses, whether he's up front about it or he sugar coats them, the problem is rather than address the issues in front of him he uses his weird logic to rationalise in his head why it's not the lack of depth, preparation or signings which lead to poor performances and defeats.

    Time and time again we see the same issues cropping up and time and time again he does nothing about them and come a poor run he has his ready made excuses, like bad luck, players taking drugs, clubs spending too much, poor refereeing etc, it's just boring and tiresome, if he used his resources better we'd more often than not, not be in those situations.

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    Cheer up, we might lose the next one

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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    The man is full of excuses, whether he's up front about it or he sugar coats them, the problem is rather than address the issues in front of him he uses his weird logic to rationalise in his head why it's not the lack of depth, preparation or signings which lead to poor performances and defeats.

    Time and time again we see the same issues cropping up and time and time again he does nothing about them and come a poor run he has his ready made excuses, like bad luck, players taking drugs, clubs spending too much, poor refereeing etc, it's just boring and tiresome, if he used his resources better we'd more often than not, not be in those situations.
    Yep

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