The thing is PnG if we had to beat a top side in order to reach top four would you expect us to do it?
The thing is PnG if we had to beat a top side in order to reach top four would you expect us to do it?
Wenger would poison the lasagna of the other team, but he'd make sure we get 4th. Frankly, I can see us beating Jesus if it meant us getting 4th place.Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
Arsene Wenger, the only football manager that got paid 8 million quid to do nothing but sit on his arse..
I don't know. Luckily for us we're unlikely to find ourselves in that situation for a top 4 finish.
Great result, not entirely surprised we've gone through as there's two things AW is good at getting 4th place and getting into the last 16 of the CL, everything else he's woefully inept at.
In all likelyness we'll play a decent side now and wave our goodbyes to the competition.
grudgingly impressed you still managed to sneak in a dig at Wenger after that result.
Yeah, we haven't won a trophy for months
Anyway, we're 2nd in the league and in the last 16 of the CL. So far so good.
We're doing better than your mate Mourinho, taking the reigning champions into a relegation battle.
Now THAT is woefully inept.
Your face is woefully inept.
NOTE: The location of this post has been moved and the thread title (which was previously Wenger is Leaving) has been manipulated by a notorious pro-Wenger moderator. What was previously a message that contained no profanity and made a comment on a real life event has now been manipulated by a deliberately provocative title. An old and crude propaganda and censorship technique.
Woefully inept is over- egging it - but I can see what you are getting at - and you PnG to a degree.
With Wenger - it always seems sometimes like there's a glass ceiling for his teams that allows them to get so far - to flatter to deceive if you like - only to fall short of proper success. I guess what you are saying, PnG is that while we did undoubtedly show the mental strength, composure and team performance necessary to go through on Wednesday night - Wenger's teams are, and have always been, capable of pulling off a good result - never more so than in getting to our glass ceiling of last 16 CL qualification or top 4 EPL.
I suppose its perfectly valid for both of you to take the view that a 'real performance' would be one that ended up breaking our 'glass ceiling'.
And that's the problem I guess. I was genuinely impressed with us on Wednesday - but without evidence of a proper step up by this team it will be just another of the many causes for optimism that we have had over the years, only to ultimately be let down.
Putting the laughter back into manslaughter
What would you accept as evidence for a step up? I've listed endlessly a few signs of hope I see. The signings of people like Ozil, Sanchez and Cech has made a clear difference. We've finally started winning trophies again. Not the biggest prizes yet but it's a start. And some of the results in the last year or so have shown something - a few years ago we wouldn't have won either the away Utd game in the FA Cup or the home game this year. Before the home game this year many were predicting a repeat of previous home games vs Utd where we dominate possession but end up losing, but we blitzed them. Yes, some of those results have been followed by disappointing ones but isn't any season like that? It certainly has been this year for everyone, there has been no standout team this year.
Ultimately we'll only know whether we've stepped up come May - well, maybe earlier if we start to seriously fall out of the title race.
I was endlessly mocked early season for daring to suggest that maybe we should wait till the end of the season to see where we are but it's obvious. This result is a case in point. Do you judge our performance in the CL group stage after 2 games when it was looking like a fiasco or after 6 when we've qualified? Right now we're in the title race and we've qualified for the last 16 of the CL, I think that's a pretty decent season so far. Ultimately we'll only be able to assess the season properly and whether we've made progress or not at the end.
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