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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters To Santa View Post
    With all the money sloshing around it's quite hard to see how anyone will be a dominant English team. I expect us to be in the title mix most seasons, I think Wenger can deliver that.
    As for a European power, City and Chelsea haven't managed that with all their squillions, I'm not sure how realistic an expectation that is. But I do agree Wenger's record in the CL smells a bit. It's impressive to qualify from the group stage a million years in a row, but disappointing how seldom we've got further than that.
    I do agree in part, I don't see why with our resources it should make us a power house of European football, even English football is getting harder. The billionaire clubs don't need the owners money anymore to spend big. The English league is a lot more competitive and I think that is why we are performing worse in Europe as you cant coast (perhaps Villa aside) through games anymore. Its hard to rotate players when you have to play to your best to get the points. Bayern, Barca, Real can coast through games. It isn't as physical and there resources far outstrip anyone else in those respective leagues.

    Personally I don't care if we dominate or not, unless we are full of superstar players like Vieira, Henry, Bergkamp, Pires etc then I actually prefer competitive football.... as long as we still win. although there were times when we had those players that we had to have a player sent off to make the game a bit more even.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    This Barcelona side is possibly superior especially offensively IMO, it's less one dimensional with the forwards they have and less reliant on Messi, let's not forget the time before last when they did hammer us, the fact they didn't last time was more due to luck than skill, Barcelona played us off the park in large parts and just didn't convert, but with the forwards they have now I can't see it happening.

    People are deluded if they think we have a chance, this Barcelona team are far more potent in attack due to Suarez and Neymar now being part of the setup.
    So play behind closed doors and don't bother watching on TV is what you're saying?

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    So what happened to not being able to compete with the oil baron clubs? Goal posts are being shifted in a major way. What money have Leicester spent to be top of the table? Yes, the Prem is flushed with money but you guys can't look at the table midway through the season and assume you're seeing a regular pattern or an emerging pattern.

    City, Chelsea and Man City have some serious spoilt primma donna's on their team that won't do the very basics. The league is competitive and I'm impressed with the way lower teams are playing but our rivals are playing below par. Let's not get carried away. If they were playing out of their skin and still losing then there would be a much stronger argument. But what we're seeing from the top teams is disgraceful and I'd say we're seeing more of a pattern of players sulking on the pitch to get their way. City and Chelsea have gone through so many managers they've created a rotten foundation for themselves because they have mercenaries throughout their ranks. This is what happens when you don't invest in youth and have players that came through the ranks. When you pay over the odds for toe rags too early and know when the going gets tough they can check out with a hefty cheque anytime they want. Look at Di Maria and David Luis. Football is going down the shitter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kano View Post
    So play behind closed doors and don't bother watching on TV is what you're saying?
    No, just watch it to see great players that you don't usually see playing against us, all with the knowledge that we'll lose, take it for what it is entertainment.

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    Find entertainment in us losing? That's just a weird thing to do as a fan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters To Santa View Post
    We've just retained the FA Cup. We're currently 2nd in the table and in the last 16 of the CL.
    Do we have serious problems?

    Problems, maybe, but all clubs have those. I don't think ours are that serious, relatively speaking.
    They're not that serious because all our EPL challengers are in the same boat. Not because we have obviously progressed.
    Putting the laughter back into manslaughter

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    So what happened to not being able to compete with the oil baron clubs? Goal posts are being shifted in a major way. What money have Leicester spent to be top of the table? Yes, the Prem is flushed with money but you guys can't look at the table midway through the season and assume you're seeing a regular pattern or an emerging pattern.

    City, Chelsea and Man City have some serious spoilt primma donna's on their team that won't do the very basics. The league is competitive and I'm impressed with the way lower teams are playing but our rivals are playing below par. Let's not get carried away. If they were playing out of their skin and still losing then there would be a much stronger argument. But what we're seeing from the top teams is disgraceful and I'd say we're seeing more of a pattern of players sulking on the pitch to get their way. City and Chelsea have gone through so many managers they've created a rotten foundation for themselves because they have mercenaries throughout their ranks. This is what happens when you don't invest in youth and have players that came through the ranks. When you pay over the odds for toe rags too early and know when the going gets tough they can check out with a hefty cheque anytime they want. Look at Di Maria and David Luis. Football is going down the shitter.
    Replace 'disgraceful' with 'bizzare' and I'm with you...
    Putting the laughter back into manslaughter

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kano View Post
    Find entertainment in us losing? That's just a weird thing to do as a fan.
    I'm just realistic and realise we're going to lose, stops me being disappointed when we invariably do, so I can then just watch the game and enjoy the quality of the players on show.

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    Maybe I'm just thin-skinned but I don't find getting rolled by a quality side especially enjoyable. Against giants or minnows, defeat for your side is a bitter pill to swallow. I can be less disappointed with a defeat if I anticipate it, but I could never enjoy it.

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    I don't think we'll beat Barca, but what the hell, we've bought the lottery ticket so there is always hope.

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