Predicted. Win against City and fail to capitalise on Leicester City's loss. I keep saying you can't pay attention to the big wins because the team has this sort of game in them. Woeful.
Predicted. Win against City and fail to capitalise on Leicester City's loss. I keep saying you can't pay attention to the big wins because the team has this sort of game in them. Woeful.
There's no pattern to anything anymore. You shouldn't read in to this anymore than you shouldn't read into the City win. It's not like we regularly get thrashed by a mid-table team. When was the last time it happened?Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
Completely agree. Dropping points against Southampton was no surprise at all - although this deserved spanking may not have been so easy to predict. How come we are the patsys for every fucking team that is woefully out of form? This can't be a coincidence. Our attitude was completely different to that against Olympiacos or Citeh - we looked disinteterested; lacking in focus and complacent. Our habit of turning this kind of performance in regularly has not, and will not go away, Which is why I don't believe we will win the league,
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Aston Villa and Everton putting 3 past us a couple of seasons ago was embarrassing but this tops those.
But I'm not talking about the scoreline being predictable. It's the way we buckle when we have a chance to be league leaders. We're too unpredictable and you just don't know what team will show up. You're right about that. Which is why there is no point in getting over excited about City. Lessons aren't being learned.
I thought of your observation re 'must win' games while watching tonight. And our inability to grasp opportunities like this is a failing that will not go away.
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It's the perfect example of what I've been talking about. I can't wrap my head around why we seem to have this problem with every Wenger team since moving from Highbury. It makes no sense. It's just impossible to measure the progress of this team or asses whether they've overcome that psychological hurdle.
Pampered players who have a socialist relationship with manager and our wet board of directors rather than a hierarchical position in a results machine. And it's not just us, player power has infected and rotted the whole league. The poor saps in the media see this as a competitive revival, the players see this as wow, I don't even have to turn up to make bank. When Ferguson retired the game of Paisley, Clough and Ramsey retired with him. It's not a team game at the top any more, it's a shop window for individuals. They play a couple of seasons, maybe bunging in an effort in the first year, coasting through the second while they focus on the more important matter of the contract renegotiation.
How disgusting was Theo Walcott yesterday? How much more can our lilly livered manager and club do for this kid before he commits to 90 minutes every week? A cracking goal against the gypos? Theo evidently thinks this buys him a free ride. No professional pride or sportsmen's ambition.
Too much money. The top teams can't afford to drop out of the top 4. There's too much commercial shit riding on it. To many huge pay packets to service. To many rivals sniffing around with unlimited bank balances.
The fans are consumers. They pay for admittance and after that they are owed nothing. They have no investment in the club beyond the cash transaction. Turn up if you want, cheer if you want, fuck off if you want because there's a queue of consumers behind you.
Some of the smaller clubs have figured all this out and have opted to play as a team. A team will wallop a collection of self-interested individuals any day. Our cosy little socialist club run by the players and serviced by the bean counters who are in it for the share price were annihilated on the pitch by a football team yesterday. Ty (the poster boy consumer fan) says so what? It happens. They'll still finish 10 points behind. Ty is cancer.
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I don't think we have pampered players at Arsenal. I just don't think we suffer from the same sort of problems we've seen at Chelsea, Utd or City. We don't have a culture where the manager gets sacked if the players fail to turn up, most of these players aren't on mega rich clubs most wanted list either. It goes far beyond one or two individuals as well because the whole team didn't turn up last night. But I wouldn't say it's a case of the players not caring. Most of these guys aren't used to winning and it makes no sense go get sloppy when it's the first time in years you could win the league. Why throw away great work from earlier in the season all of a sudden?
The team is not motivated at heart. The manager is not 100% focused on sport and excellence. The club is a vehicle for something other than football. It's a broken vessel, not the only one by any means, as we see in chavland and gypoland and elsewhere. Priorities are misplaced, goals are confused, rewards are granted regardless. It's a fantasy world pretending to be something it's not.
It would be great for football if Leicester won the league. Might wake up the players who have "made it" and make them aware they need to be at the top of their game to stay at the top. Of course Leicester would then have made it and so the disease would set in. The chavs won their last title when nobody else showed up. What an awful collection of half grade players they are, as has been shown this season. Not even Maureen could motivate the cunts to do what they are privileged and paid to do. At Arsenal we're worse off. A board that doesn't even know anything about football, let alone care. A manager that splits his focus into a thousand different areas, probably because the executive can't be arsed. Players who know they can get away with results like the beating we just took. You'd think that after that 6-0 mauling we got against the chavs a couple of years back such a performance would never be possible at Arsenal again. But here we see it it again.
Listen to Ty on Arsenal Fan TV. He's such a reasonable chap, he really is. Always an excuse masquerading as a reason. He's telling us what's wrong with the club and its players, expressing it in gushing terms even. On average, he all but says, this result can be wiped away. Because on average we'll still achieve that greyness that brings so many financial rewards.
I said after the win against the gypos that the main test came in the next game. Not only did we fail the test, we failed it as comprehensively as it was possible to fail it. And I said, along with others who are apparently not "true supporters", that all the old signs were still evident because they are. It all points back to one man and the organisation that backs him to deliver something different to sporting achievement.
Wenger after this farce was a disgrace. Blaming the ref FFS. Was it the ref's job to send the extraordinarily well paid players out on that pitch to take the opportunity all but dished up on a plate. Their job was to be at least as competitive as an organisation with a fraction of our resources. Look what happened. A one-off? A blip? Or another example of what we have been seeing for years. And if you conclude, as you must, it is the latter, what's that guy still doing in his job? How can the reigning champion be sacked while our guy continues to dish this up? Where's the sense in it? What's the purpose of our club? He won't do anything in the transfer window to fix the problems either. It will be more excuses, all so reasonable, all so grey. But the cash will keep rolling in. And if nobody else turns up we might even be champions by default. What a disaster if that happens. It will give the wrong people a whole new lease of life to continue with the same old shit.
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