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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    Without wishing to go round and round the same circles again, you don't think Ozil, Sanchez and Cech have made a difference?
    I guess we'll see come May how much they have but players like that give me more hope of finishing the job this time than I had on other occasions.
    You should know the answer to that from previous debates. I still think we need more. Also, I don't think we play exciting football anymore. It's rare to see us carving up teams with our passing and putting on a show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    we tend to struggle when genuine pressure to win something big kicks in.
    There go the goalposts...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    There go the goalposts...
    I added that in so you don't bring the FA Cup into this like you always do, a cup where we really didn't have a tough run to win it, just good draws in reality, the pressure wasn't the same as it is for winning the league or the CL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    I think you'll find most people are struggling to really enjoy football. Why follow? Optimism comes from hope of something changing at the club.
    Yeah i have to agree. I have really struggled to enjoy being top of the league, beating munich, city, united in the process. Its been horrific

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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    I added that in so you don't bring the FA Cup into this like you always do, a cup where we really didn't have a tough run to win it, just good draws in reality, the pressure wasn't the same as it is for winning the league or the CL.

    we did have a tough one. Spurs, liverpool and everton in the first year. Last year had united away ( a place we hadn't won in ten years). We won those cups by producing in the big games and winning.

    Also there was a ton of pressure in 2014 to win the cup. No trophy in 9 years, the pressure from the fans and the media to win it was huge. Don't belittle our achievements when a few years ago you were moaning we weren't taking the fa cup seriously

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ollie the Optimist View Post
    we did have a tough one. Spurs, liverpool and everton in the first year. Last year had united away ( a place we hadn't won in ten years). We won those cups by producing in the big games and winning.

    Also there was a ton of pressure in 2014 to win the cup. No trophy in 9 years, the pressure from the fans and the media to win it was huge. Don't belittle our achievements when a few years ago you were moaning we weren't taking the fa cup seriously
    All at home, so not that hard., it's a draw you'd want.

    Be honest, United were woeful last season, enough said.

    There just isn't the same pressure as there is when it come to winning the big trophies like the league and CL, good to win the cup but it just isn't the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ollie the Optimist View Post
    Yeah i have to agree. I have really struggled to enjoy being top of the league, beating munich, city, united in the process. Its been horrific
    Those are results. I don't enjoy watching the games as much as I used to. It's not just Arsenal, I think the way football is going, there just aren't many great teams and players. Just a lot of hype and primma donnas. There are the odd games but I used to enjoy the majority not just the odd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ollie the Optimist View Post
    we did have a tough one. Spurs, liverpool and everton in the first year. Last year had united away ( a place we hadn't won in ten years). We won those cups by producing in the big games and winning.

    Also there was a ton of pressure in 2014 to win the cup. No trophy in 9 years, the pressure from the fans and the media to win it was huge. Don't belittle our achievements when a few years ago you were moaning we weren't taking the fa cup seriously
    Do you just fill in when Lettters can't be arsed?

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    I'm fairly sure when we hadn't won a trophy ie just two years ago; the only talk was "Wenger will never win a trophy for us again". It wasn't "Wenger might win the FA Cup but that doesn't really count even if he did".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    I added that in so you don't bring the FA Cup into this
    No, you added it so you don't have to consider the FA Cup as a pressure situation like you always do.
    You define a 'pressure situation' - always retrospectively - as one where we fail. Where we don't you move the goalposts to remove it from your definition.
    As for the draws, I previously went back to other cup winning teams' runs and showed that our draw was not unusually hard or easy.
    But an FA Cup Quarter Final at Old Trafford is clearly a high pressure game.

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