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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha View Post
    Totally agree with you . Flamini and Ramsey are useless in deep midfield . but that shit is the best we got at the moment . I know Elneny was at bench but we have to take into account the fact he hasn't kicked a single ball in EPL yet . You can't just throw a new guy in a game of such magnitude : he can be forced to make silly mistake and make the game worse or he can completely lose his confidence .
    What is more frustrating is to have players who never kept their cool in the final third . Chelsea was there for the taking . Despite the sending off a better team than us should have scored at least two goals . Wenger's fault is to keep such players for so long . We need at least two more Alexis and things will change for the better . We panicked and are too naive in the final third . Just one goal was enough to win the game . At 1-1 , Chelsea would have lost confidence and surrendered .They must be surprised with the 3 points . A gift from the Emirates really .
    Elneny wouldn't have lost his confidence after one game. It's too early. If he fell flat on his face after the first game it would most likely force him to try harder and know the standard of the league. If he had a good game it would really boost his confidence. We have nothing to lose by starting him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha View Post
    Totally agree with you . Flamini and Ramsey are useless in deep midfield . but that shit is the best we got at the moment . I know Elneny was on the bench but we have to take into account the fact he hasn't kicked a single ball in EPL yet . You can't just throw a new guy in a game of such magnitude : he can be forced to make silly mistake and make the game worse or he can completely lose his confidence .
    What is more frustrating is to have players who never kept their cool in the final third . Chelsea was there for the taking . Despite the sending off a better team than us should have scored at least two goals . Wenger's fault is to keep such players for so long . We need at least two more Alexis and things will change for the better . We panicked and are too naive in the final third . Just one goal was enough to win the game . At 1-1 , Chelsea would have lost confidence and surrendered .They must be surprised with the 3 points . A gift from the Emirates really .
    I agree, lets hold back playing Elneny until we're out of the title race and the pressure is off.

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    He's just been on saying he takes positives from the game. Either he's deluded beyond all hope of recovery or he's trying to con anyone who watched that shambles.


    I watched his interview too and I have to agree this guy is deluded,is it any wonder we make the same f--k ups every season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Loblaw View Post
    I agree, lets hold back playing Elneny until we're out of the title race and the pressure is off.
    Well , I agree to disagree . It is not what I am saying at all . First of all , we don't know the state of his fitness at all . Was he 100% ready to play today ? We will never know unless we are in the coaching staff . Were he to be our saviour ? Only God knows .
    DO NOT POSTPONE TODAY'S DUTY FOR TOMORROW .IT MAY BE TOO LATE .

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    Spot on

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    Quote Originally Posted by selassie View Post
    We've been wobbling for a few weeks now. I personally don't think we'll win the league, I don't really rate our chances higher than Leicester or Spurs. When the going gets tough this team folds like a pack of cards.
    This.

    Realistic league winners would not have thrown the 3 points against Liverpool. Realistic league winners would not regard a point away at Stoke as something to be content with. And realistic league winners would not have put in an inept performance against a Chelsea team ripe for the taking. I am concerned - not just that we will piss away the poorest EPL for years - but that Spurs will be the team to take advantage of this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha View Post
    Totally agree with you . Flamini and Ramsey are useless in deep midfield . but that shit is the best we got at the moment . I know Elneny was at bench but we have to take into account the fact he hasn't kicked a single ball in EPL yet . You can't just throw a new guy in a game of such magnitude : he can be forced to make silly mistake and make the game worse or he can completely lose his confidence .
    What is more frustrating is to have players who never kept their cool in the final third . Chelsea was there for the taking . Despite the sending off a better team than us should have scored at least two goals . Wenger's fault is to keep such players for so long . We need at least two more Alexis and things will change for the better . We panicked and are too naive in the final third . Just one goal was enough to win the game . At 1-1 , Chelsea would have lost confidence and surrendered .They must be surprised with the 3 points . A gift from the Emirates really .
    Wenger has thrown players in at the deep end on numerous occasions. He almost destroyed Coquelin chucking him into that humiliation against Utd a few years back. He's thrown the likes of Sanogo into Europe. He's no stranger to it. But for some reason he thinks Flamini and Ramsey work as a midfield pair. Nobody else in the world thinks that - only Wenger. And that's enough to know it's time for him to go. His judgement is shot to hell, he can't spot the obvious stuff any more. He can't see that Mertesacker is a huge liability. He can't see that taking Giroud off when Walcott has been playing so badly effectively reduced us to 9. He can't figure out that then playing Ozil as the striker rather than Theo is insane - he thinks that's perfectly rational. He couldn't reason that Campbell was one of our hardest workers and would have benefited from Alexis coming on as soon as we went down to 10. Alexis is the IDEAL player for that, he's worth 2 men with his work rate. It escapes him that the whole reason for Theo to be playing is for his pace and the tippy tappy game leaves Theo with fuck all to do except be offside waiting for a pass that never comes. He didn't spot the midfield clusterfuck against Liverpool and Stoke so therefore didn't feel the need to make a change going in against Matic, Cuntegas and Mikel. He didn't feel the need to get off his arse and stamp his authority when Ramsey and Flamini were wandering all over the place neglecting their primary responsibilities. I could keep going with this until every aspect of the game is covered. Because the manager got absolutely everything wrong today. Everything. It's 100% his fault. So therefore, you can in fact blame him.

    I don't blame the players today. I blame some of them in general for not having worked hard enough all season. But you could have thrown any ten out there and minus any sort of tactics and the crazed formation Wenger settled on it was near on impossible for any player to make sense of it. You have eleven guys all over the place, all with freedom to wander as if we are the finished Barcelona. There's no way Ramsey can be charging up the pitch like that leaving huge gaps unless Wenger has sanctioned it. Wenger has seen something that isn't there, like a guy in a padded cell working out the woes of his imaginary world. He's lost the plot, probably from years of focusing on the money instead of the team. And in that respect his bosses are to blame too. Obviously that must be what they want. But for the sake of what happens on the pitch Wenger has to go now and it would be such a bonus if he'd take that board with him too.

    No chance though. 2019 they say. No wonder, they are raking it in. Top gate receipts in all football, trumping Barca and Utd. Now we know what that stadium move was really all about. Yes indeed, we are now competing with the top sides in Europe. Not on the pitch maybe, but where it really counts for the senior people at this club (including Wenger) the balance sheet.

    They need to go. And this isn't a reaction to today. That's what I thought before the first ball of the season was kicked and that's what some have thought for years. They were absolutely right then just as they remain right today, because the entire balance of the evidence is right there for all to see and judge.

    2019? You could weep.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fakeyank View Post
    Keep faith my friend.. I am bringing a lock of Donald Trumps hair for good luck.
    Plucked from his severed head I trust?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Munchies View Post


    Spot on
    'Wenger stands there like Mr Bean'
    Putting the laughter back into manslaughter

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    Realistic contenders still but not without some quite large negatives that are probably only pinned back without certain injuries.

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