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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    I can't imagine Wilshere being worse than Ramsey.
    Of course not. Wilshere is a liability in as much as he's crocked a lot, when he plays he more often than not performs. At the very least he can hold onto the ball and pick out a pass. Ramsey & Flamini offer this team nothing at the moment, can't pass, can't tackle. Ramsey at least scored the other day but other than that he's been really poor, he was horrible today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    I can't imagine Wilshere being worse than Ramsey.
    Jack likes to run into defenders so he would be like Ox or Theo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mastermind84 View Post
    Jack likes to run into defenders so he would be like Ox or Theo.
    Jack isn't as bad on the ball as those two, he does it give it away but at least he actually creates.

    He would be an upgrade on those two and Ramsey IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by selassie View Post
    Jack isn't as bad on the ball as those two, he does it give it away but at least he actually creates.

    He would be an upgrade on those two and Ramsey IMO.
    I agree. Flawed player but I can't imagine his touch and passing being as bad as what I'm seeing from Ramsey.

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    I'm not sure Wilshere is the answer either, he does run around and put in some tackles (quite often mistimed), but he also gives away bad free kicks in key areas and runs into dead end in the same way the Alexsandr Kleb use to, we're trying to find solutions due to how poor the current pairing is, but we forget how someone plays when they've been injured for so long, he's just not composed enough.

    We need someone more composed and mature in that area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    I'm not sure Wilshere is the answer either, he does run around and put in some tackles (quite often mistimed), but he also gives away bad free kicks in key areas and runs into dead end in the same way the Alexsandr Kleb use to, we're trying to find solutions due to how poor the current pairing is, but we forget how someone plays when they've been injured for so long, he's just not composed enough.

    We need someone more composed and mature in that area.
    I mention Wilshere in hope that he recovers this season but come summer we should be looking to buy.

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    Unfortunately for Jack, unless he can increase his availability for selection to more than 3 months a season he's not going to be the answer to anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    I'm not sure Wilshere is the answer either, he does run around and put in some tackles (quite often mistimed), but he also gives away bad free kicks in key areas and runs into dead end in the same way the Alexsandr Kleb use to, we're trying to find solutions due to how poor the current pairing is, but we forget how someone plays when they've been injured for so long, he's just not composed enough.

    We need someone more composed and mature in that area.
    I agree long term he's not the answer but I think short term if he's available for selection I'd put him in. Our midfield is in bad shape right now, things will improve defensively when Coq comes back but we will still lack that composure and game management with Ramsey presumably still getting picks in there.

    Central Midfield needs to be reviewed carefully over the summer and I think we need a long term partner to Coq because right now I'm not convinced of any of our options with the exception of Santi who is not getting any younger, I just think Jack when fit is a better option than Ramsey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by selassie View Post
    Jack isn't as bad on the ball as those two, he does it give it away but at least he actually creates.

    He would be an upgrade on those two and Ramsey IMO.
    Ramsey creates too

    I think the big problem is just how bad Flamini is. He is only good when he man marks but he can't cover ground and is scared of the ball. There was a moment yesterday when Oxlade made a move on the right and the ball strayed a bit. Flamini was closest to the ball and coulda played it and made a move but instead he stood bad let Oxlade recover it and it ended up in one of Oxlade's dead end runs.

    Ramsey also had more tackles and interceptions than Flamini yesterday. It was a huge difference too.


    Jack wouldn't help this side at al but my hope is that he matures into the Cazorla role but I don't know if he has the nous for it.

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    5 goals and only 3 assist from Ramsey this season. It's not good enough really.

    He makes tackles. A lot. But in vital moments he's in the wrong position just like when we conceded the goal.

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