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[Kano]

Which was pretty much my initial point.
That doesn't mean we should keep Wenger. But there's no point in replacing him with someone worse and it's clearly balls to say that anyone would be better.

We have to remember that we didn't have a clue who Wenger was when he first came here, so reputation won't guarantees success either. There is also the likelihood that we could go through a Utd style dip after a manager leaves after being in place for so long.

The other issue to face is that Wenger is likelly to stay on at the club in one capacity or the other, so his influence will still be felt around the club for some time after I think.

[IBK]

Which was pretty much my initial point.
That doesn't mean we should keep Wenger. But there's no point in replacing him with someone worse and it's clearly balls to say that anyone would be better.

Our difference, I think is that many, even most Gooners are now willing to take a leap of faith with a manager who has progressive credentials and a track record of improving teams - if not necessarily having top honours. One thing at Arsenal, is that we don't necessarily need a manager with a big rep in order to manage 'superstars'. Our players are about as compliant as they come.

[Power n Glory]

Which was pretty much my initial point.
That doesn't mean we should keep Wenger. But there's no point in replacing him with someone worse and it's clearly balls to say that anyone would be better.

I'd take comfort in the fact that someone that completely does a botch job as manager will get the sack and the Board will have to think strategically about who comes in next. With Wenger there is too much comfort. Never good enough to win the major trophies but not bad enough to get the sack.

[selassie]

I'd take comfort in the fact that someone that completely does a botch job as manager will get the sack and the Board will have to think strategically about who comes in next. With Wenger there is too much comfort. Never good enough to win the major trophies but not bad enough to get the sack.

That's how I feel now too....a change is needed and will be welcome in my book, even if the new guy spends billions (unlikely) but fails...it would be a welcomed change.

Arsenal under Wenger is scripted, it's mentally tiring.

[Marc Overmars]

A few guys have come into this league in recent years and made immediate impacts. Why shouldn't we find ourselves a Pochettino, Koeman, Bilic etc? None of these guys have a particularly glowing list of honours but they encompass modern coaching and have expansive philosophies. They also had respected playing careers which helps a lot.

I'd love it if Wenger's successor was someone like that.

[Letters]

We have to remember that we didn't have a clue who Wenger was when he first came here, so reputation won't guarantees success either.

That's a fair point

[Power n Glory]

I just want to see a successor with new ideas. Seeing Ramsey, Flamini and Giroud in the line up….the outcome of that game was predictable.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

And that there is the tragedy of what our club has become. because he won't. Noone at the club is able to, or interested in taking Wenger to task, and given what we have seen from Gazidis' other sports ventures, I am really not convinced that even a year failing to qualify for the CL will see the end of our manager. It genuinely wouldn't surprise me if the cash reserves that we have are earmarked as a safety fund to ensure the minimum of commercial disruption in these circumstances - and Wenger's track record in achieving what the shareholders want financially will see him survive even a non top 4 finish.

Don't you mean Kroenke's other sports ventures? But yeah, you'd be right. Kroenke gives zero fucks about the on-field success of any of his sporting ventures as long as the money keeps flowing in and the value of his shares continue rising. The Denver Nuggets and the St Louis (soon to be LA) rams have been terrible for ages. He'd probably call you a madman if you even suggested that he get rid of Wenger. It's just our luck to end up with this parasite owning our club ....... sigh, what were you doing Dein when you first introduced him here?

I peg Gazidis as a lot more reasonable and in-tune with the fan sentiment however to make a decision as large as to sack Wenger you need Stan's blessing which he'll never give. It'll up to Wenger himself to leave and from the murmurings there have been recently, he's actually eager to sign a new contract. He's divorced his long term wife and his daughter is all grown up now, so the job is probably all that he has now.

Anyway the only tiny bit of positivity last night was that Wenger did seem genuinely livid at things, albeit he directed it at the ref (who tbf was objectively terrible) and Koeman instead of his players.

On a separate note, what's it with bald refs and being absolutely shit/corrupt? Dean, Mason, Taylor etc etc

TBH this exposes our lack of cutting edge/finishing all the more. The reality is that for a 'top team' we are woefully bereft of finishers at our club.You win games by scoring goals, and for the chances we create, we simply do not have the efficiency that is needed to win the league.

The thing is that if was a one of game then you could excuse it - even during the invincible era we had games where we totally dominated, had dozens of shots on target only to see the opposing keeper pull of a worldie and to earn them a draw. But it isn't. We've been so inefficient when it comes to creating and scoring chances for a very long time now.

It's symptomatic of a deep rooted problem with Wenger's current style of play and team building.

[AFC Leveller]

Simeone would be great for us. Young, hungry for success, has won stuff as a player and manager and his teams are so hard to beat.

[IBK]

Yeah - Kroenke I meant. I don't have a problem with Gazidis, really. I think he has relatively little ability to do much as regards the direction of the club, stuck between a messianistic manager and a disinterested owner...