If Wenger leaves at the end of the season ...

[Niall_Quinn]

Football isnt about the 60k that go to the stadium anymore, that goes for any club. You only need to look at the TV deal that is coming. Gate money is small change. Im sure fans of many clubs are becoming disillusioned with football in general.

Of course fans are becoming disillusioned, the ones who remember something different anyway. You make a good point. Think about all that money that is about to flood into the game. Which club has set itself up to exploit that to the absolute fullest extent? Just answer that question and then see where it takes you. No fucking team on the pitch - no worries, it really doesn't matter if you look at this from a certain (minority) perspective. We get extra house points in the media for being the best run club - financially. If that's the point of this new sport, then well done us. I take back everything I have said.

[Niall_Quinn]

You're posting the same stuff on Goonersworld too? I admire your commitment to our club.

"our" club? Don't flatter yourself.

[Kano]

Ok. My club. The one I support and always have.

Not the one I have started to follow while my regular team slide down the league clinging onto distant memories.

[Letters]

The bare minimal resources have been put in to ensure we always stayed in the optimum earnings position. We would have earned less had we dropped out ofthe top 4. Don't you find it just a little strange that our best form tends to materialise when revenue is at stake?

Even if the board only care about revenue - and even if you say that extends to the manager which I don't buy, it surely doesn't extend to the players.
If you can win the title then why would you as a group of players just not bother and think it's job done when top 4 is secure. It makes no sense at all.
And even if it is just about the revenue, you clearly get more money if you win the league not only in terms of prize money but in terms of prestige which leads to increased fanbase and more money from that source.

[Power n Glory]

This is a viewpoint from elsewhere worth consideration:
http://www.goonersworld.co.uk/forum/...30064#p1346449

In part:







When you really look at the Wenger legacy what do we see? The perfect transformation of a football club into a corporate entity that serves the many at the expense of the few. Everything the club used to stand for is gone. It could be argued Wenger had no choice, that's the way the game was going. Fair enough, but let's not call him a great manager, let's call him a great marketer. He certainly sold me for long enough and he's still selling the majority today.

They've pulled a fast one for sure. I thought the ticket prices during the Highbury era were high because of the small capacity. Very naive but I thought prices would go down once we had a bigger stadium to spread the cost. It's really not looking good.

[Niall_Quinn]

Ok. My club. The one I support and always have.

Not the one I have started to follow while my regular team slide down the league clinging onto distant memories.

Marching off to war to defend the country because what else could war be for?

Are you saying I'm not a hero?

[Niall_Quinn]

Even if the board only care about revenue - and even if you say that extends to the manager which I don't buy, it surely doesn't extend to the players.
If you can win the title then why would you as a group of players just not bother and think it's job done when top 4 is secure. It makes no sense at all.
And even if it is just about the revenue, you clearly get more money if you win the league not only in terms of prize money but in terms of prestige which leads to increased fanbase and more money from that source.

Since when have our players had to win anything to get more money?

[selassie]

Of course he won't leave.

If he does leave then I would certainly want Pellegrini, Simeone cannot speak english, also Tuchel is not setting the world alight at Dortmund either.

Pellegrini speaks english, just, and he would at the very least spend money on top players.

He would instill confidence and not insist on humility like Wenger does.

You want Pelligrini, but are turning your nose up at Simeone and Tuchel?

Simeone has built a great team/squad at Atletico, he's like Wenger was pre-Emirates days, the amount of young talent he's bringing through is insane and they are all special talents too, the likes of Oblak, Oliver Torres, Saul Niguez, Gimenez, Carrasco, Correa etc. Simeone's record in the market with young talents is near flawless.

Him not speaking fluent English is a negative but it's the only one IMO, he's an Elite coach.

Tuchel is doing a great job at Dortmund, they were a mess last season and he's slowly bringing them back to their former level. Bayern are in a league of their own TBH, so any team/manager that finishes above them would have done an amazing job. Tuchel is a young manager too, he did good work at Mainz considering they had pretty much no budget to spend on players.

Dortmund are still very much challenging for the Bundesliga and have looked very solid this season IMO.

Pelligrini? He's a good coach but I see too many flaws in him and I don't believe him to be an upgrade on Wenger. He's also getting on a bit, I would prefer us to hire a young manager when Wenger finally throws in the towel.

[Letters]

Since when have our players had to win anything to get more money?

Don't they get win bonuses? They certainly don't get any less money if they win stuff. If you get to the level these guys have got to then you must be pretty competitive, why settle for 4th place when you have a shot at 1st? Witness the celebrations after the FA Cup wins, these guys enjoy winning.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Pellegrini is average manager, if you look at the squad and cash at his disposal and they got their nuts whipped with a wet towel by Leicester on Saturday and he just sits there looking like one of the things in terra hawks.

Wenger is incredibly frustrating and makes ridiculous elementary mistakes time and time again but no doubt currently better than Pellegrini or Van Gaal.