Nonsense I'd say. We know he lies all the time.Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
Nonsense I'd say. We know he lies all the time.
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He could be but when has he ever spoken like that and not been so bullish about his job security or being proud of his record? Also the timing seems odd because he's said this when his job isn't really under much scrutiny. I could understand if he said something like this when Mourinho was poking away and saying he is under no pressure but this just comes out of the blue.
The whole scenario is a big con. Its pretty easy for any person to see. The owner of the club does not give a toss about results on the pitch. The board is that in name only. Not 1 person apart from Kroenke himself can say a word to Wenger. Wenger literally owns the club. It is his to do with as he pleases. Falling into the hands of the American is the worst thing that could happen to us given who the manager is. In another world with a self driven relentless title chasing individual at the helm it would be perfect. But Wenger only pretends to compete, once he sees things are tough he reaches into his box of excuses. If anybody needs to leave it is Kroenke. How do we do that?. A stadium boycott by legions of long term fans is the only solution and that can only happen if Spurs win the league. Maybe, maybe then, we will see enough people so disgusted that they stop going. Even if you are a season ticket holder, stop going. With acres of gaps in the crowd, the sponsors will be the first to start asking the awkward questions.
Last edited by Globalgunner; 24-02-2016 at 08:23 PM.
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Whether we like it or not, there is only one shareholder who is actually interested in us being a successful club again by buying quality and injecting the funds needed to do so and that is Usmanov.
I doubt he would be taking a £3m payment from the club each year for doing fuck all either!
Kronke is a complete and utter fraudster. People have said they don't want the Russian oligarch gangster types running things but the truth is we have it even worse with the US/English old boy gangsters instead who are only interested in sponging and siphoning as much cash from us as possible.
I don't want either of them
NOTE: The location of this post has been moved and the thread title (which was previously Wenger is Leaving) has been manipulated by a notorious pro-Wenger moderator. What was previously a message that contained no profanity and made a comment on a real life event has now been manipulated by a deliberately provocative title. An old and crude propaganda and censorship technique.
What other choice do we have?
Arabs?
We as a club just don't operate in any other world anymore - it's a billionaire owner or nothing.
You dont really have much choice and you already have 1 of them anyways, but only 1 of them is actually interested in the thing that you and I are interested in. Winning......
Sheesh! All of a sudden I feel like someone campaigning for that muppet Donald Trump........
With the other guy you are gonna win so much you will get tired of winning.
Last edited by Globalgunner; 24-02-2016 at 09:04 PM.
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Usmanov is a fan of Wenger too, so it looks like a win for everyone.
Kronke is a problem and I don't like the fact that he's picking up £3m a year for nothing but he's not the main problem. The ownership talk is a distraction. The real issue here is Wenger. It's not Silent Stan, Gazidis, oil baron clubs... the focus has to be firmly on him. I've always believed Wenger has been in cahoots with the Board way before Stan and Ivan arrived. For years he's been able to keep the focus off his own shortcomings as a manager and have everyone focused on the money. Fans were blaming the old board for years and then it shifted on to Ivan and Stan because Wenger kept talking about the financial state of other clubs and talking about not 'bankrupting' Arsenal. Forever talking in code and riddles about our financial state, creating this air of mystery that had us all guessing about what was going on.
We'd sell star players and buy basic beans. PHW and Ivan would continuously say the money was there for him to spend but he'd never strengthen the squad in the way we needed. It would always send the fans up in arms but the Board would be in question instead of Wenger. I've always maintained the money was there but Wenger was being cheap and the last few seasons have proven that. Not crazy money but enough to replace star talent for star talent. We didn't gave to downgrade. When Ivan announced the new sponsorship deals and clearly spelled out the sort of player we could afford along with the wages, the excuses from Wenger had to stop and the spotlight went firmly on him. That's why he's losing fan support so quickly. He's always hid behind the money excuse. You can go back to the Highbury days to here that when he talks of our small stadium capacity and other teams having better sponsorship deals. It's been a convenient crutch. He can't depend on that anymore since the funds are now being delivered. Now it's his turn to deliver because we're sitting comfy cosy financially.
Whoever owns the club will probably be a dirt bag. That can't be helped. They'll want the club to be profitable and stable and that's understandable from a business sense. I don't think we'll find an owner that just loves the club and wants to plough and endless stream of money in to make us successful. If that were to happen we'd have to question whether that's buying success but that's another debate. Right now the main issue is Arsene Wenger. I really don't get how he can be comfortable with his record. Why he isn't pushing the boat out for more. Why he never leaned on the Board for more money or bringing in certain players that would strengthen us. That's all on him.
Forget the owners. If you rent a property that's a complete and utter shithole, whose fault is it? Why are you happy living in a shithole and not taking proper care of the place? Even if you have a complete and utter shite of a landlord that's cheap and reluctant to spend on the place you make a nuisance of yourself and demand they fulfill their obligation and duty. You leave if the situation is that bad. Wouldn't you be embarrassed to show your friends and relatives how you're living? That's how I feel about Wenger and this club. The whole Board/Manager debate. Where Wenger's pride? His record in Europe is woeful and going so long without silverware must have stung the ego but he kept making excuses for himself and doing very little to address our problems. We now have the money but we're hearing the same excuses we heard 10 years ago about players not being available and so and so being good enough when they are clearly not. It's incredible. He has to be the first one to go.
There's also this guy who is apparently, if you believe the journos, very serious. As far as I'm aware there are no reports of him murdering, pillaging or raping anyone so whether he'd get past the football authorities is another matter.
Africa's richest businessman says he is planning a bid to buy Arsenal.
Nigerian billionaire Aliko Dangote believes the building of an oil refinery in his homeland will give him the finance to secure a takeover.
The 58-year-old, who has an estimated wealth of £11.5bn, says he has supported the Gunners since the 1980s.
"When we get this refinery on track, I will have enough time and enough resources to pay what they are asking for," he told BBC Hausa.
American Stan Kroenke is Arsenal's majority shareholder, owning 67.02% of the club's parent company Arsenal Holdings plc.
Russian-Uzbek Alisher Usmanov owns 30.04% with the remainder of the 62,217 shares held by minority shareholders including former players and the Arsenal Supporters' Trust, who own three.
Dangote is ranked 67th on the Forbes rich list.
He had previously been interested in purchasing the 15.9% stake sold to Kroenke for £123m by Lady Nina Bracewell-Smith in April 2011 only to pull out.
"There were a couple of us who were rushing to buy, and we thought with the prices then, the people who were interested in selling were trying to go for a kill," Dangote added.
"We backtracked, because we were very busy doing other things, especially our industrialisation."
Dangote believes Arsenal require a different ownership in order to be more successful on the pitch.
He added: "They are doing well, but they need another strategic direction. They need more direction than the current situation, where they just develop players and sell them."
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