So you'd play Gabriel again after that? Ok. I think you've lost the plot. It's not worth debating.
So you'd play Gabriel again after that? Ok. I think you've lost the plot. It's not worth debating.
Why are you asking me that question again when I've already categorically answered it? It's a silly debating tactic, ignoring an answer to try and make an opponent appear evasive. Then I told you why I'd play him. Then I gave you the evidence supporting my claim he's twice the defender Mertesacker is. On that basis you claim I've lost the plot and you're terminating proceedings. Does that mean you think you've made your case? And if so, what exactly is your case? That Mertesacker should play because..? You say we're more solid defensively with Mertesacker in the team, I disagree. I think we are average defensively, at best, and need to improve considerably if we want to compete at the top level. To do that we need better players than Mertesacker. We don't have a world beater to put next to Kos right now but at least we have a player who's twice as good as Mertesacker. Because he didn't play well today, in common with most of the rest of the team, doesn't mean he can't be bedded into the team so he can find an understanding as part of a settled back four. And we should do that now we have some spare games at the end of another failed title bid. Or else we stick with a very sub-standard defender who can't possibly have a future at the club. The latter seems to be a foolish option, where's the benefit in it going forward? Ideally we'd be looking to bring some world class talent into the position in the summer but we all know Wenger's ideas on transfer windows and what is ideal.Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
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Ramsey is pure shit! Despise the cunt.. #BringBackDenilson
Arsene Wenger, the only football manager that got paid 8 million quid to do nothing but sit on his arse..
I just read Walcott had 17 touches in the match.
I've defended him in the past but he is appalling right now.
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Incredible. I thought he had 3... I take back my criticism.I just read Walcott had 17 touches in the match.
I've defended him in the past but he is appalling right now.
Anonymous.
Arsene Wenger, the only football manager that got paid 8 million quid to do nothing but sit on his arse..
There is no evidence if you're not looking at what just happened yesterday. It's pretty much a pointless debate because if you can't see how badly Gabriel played against a kid making his debut, I can't help you. Destroys any argument of Gabriel's pace being more important because that's exactly what he was brought in for, to stick with Rashford and it was embarrassing. I pretty much said everything that was needed in our last debate about these two. Can you imagine the score line if Gabriel was up against Neymar? If he can't handle Rashford you can forget him playing against better players but yet we constantly hear people bemoan Merts lack of pace and say he'd get ripped by Aguero, Neymar....etc...but I bet he'd keep Rashford quiet!
No idea why you keep banging on about needing better than Merts we can't do anything about it right now. That's a debate for the summer window. I'd have no problem with an improvement. I have no interest in trying to 'bed' in Gabriel....for what? That's the sort of thing I criticise Wenger for. I'd be a complete hypocrite to argue that. Stick with an under performing player when we're still in (just about)the title race? That's not smart. No idea how you can argue that either. We have a North London Derby coming up for goodness sakes! We can't take a risk like that again. What your saying isn't sensible and there is no way you can have a go at Wenger for sticking with players like Flamini, Walcott, Ramsey etc but argue we should stick with Gabriel after that performance. I don't care what the stats say. I'm going off what I just saw. I don't care if he gets his shit together and becomes the defender we all want him to be, I don't want to see him being picked over Merts or even Callum Chambers, for that matter, after that performance. He's day in the sun will have to wait.
An absolute waste of a player. 10 years of the development. Has to be the poster boy of Emirates failure. I've defended in him as well but I can't defend that performance. Overpaid, underperforming and showing zero signs of improvement. Wenger has got his development totally wrong and I don't know why we wasted so many years of him playing on the wing if this is how he's going to perform. I thought the whole point of him starting wide was to get him to be more of team player. He hasn't totally regressed on that part of his game and the dribbling is nonexistent. A massive disappointment and he should hold a bench for the rest of the season. If he can't handle that, we should move him on in the summer. Along with Ox and Ramsey, he's developed into a poor player with zero intelligence.I just read Walcott had 17 touches in the match.
I've defended him in the past but he is appalling right now.
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The states are worse. 6/9 passes. 3rd lowest just above behind Iwobi and Januzaj who played just over 10 minutes of football. 4 touches in the box. 0 shots. 0/1 take ons....it's a shocking performance. Heat map has him all over the place besides the box. I have no idea where he was supposed to be playing but regardless of instructions, that's an example of a player with zero intelligence. Along with Ox and Ramsey, he has no idea how to be effective and considering the years we've spent with him on the wing, it's embarrassing. How and why isn't he looking to make more of a contribution? Get more touches on the ball for goodness sake. Make more passes. He has to be benched for Campbell. Sub appearances. Maybe....not even sure if he'd contribute much there.
I can't say much more with this guy. Zero intelligence. I think we should see what happens if we play Elneny in the middle with Coquelin. It can't be any worse than what we're getting from Ramsey. Well, it could....but what have we really got to lose? We can't really persist with someone offering nothing on attack or defensive cover. Ramsey is just a bad player. It doesn't matter who he's paired with. We need a different approach. We've badly missed a Cazorla and Rosicky this season. We need a new CM in the summer. For now, I think we need to get Ramsey out of there and tempted to say we should even try Ozil as CM.
Sell him before the Euros, because he plays further forward for them and will be shown up even worse!
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