Match Reaction v Swansea at home (15/16)

[Niall_Quinn]

I haven't been to a match this season, I will be cancelling my red membership in the summer. I know it wont make a blind bit of difference to Kroenke and his cronies, but I am not prepared to give any more of my hard earned money to these thieves. Will continue to support the club I love, but sadly watching them live is out of the window for the time being. And before anyone asks I don't subscribe to sky or BT either.

That last part is important, got to cancel those TV subscriptions. That's where it's at now. There will always be people willing to pay silly money to get in the stadium but the cash they really care about (club and players) comes from those TV deals. An effective protest would be for ALL Arsenal fans to cancel their BT subscription. That would get noticed fast. It would have the added bonus of hitting the organisation that likes making ads taking the piss out of us, not that we don't deserve it. I think that could be organised a lot easier too and it wouldn't have to be 100% effective to get their attention.

Because it's not primarily the titles and the tactics and the effort of the players or any of the football stuff. Shit happens in football. You get good managers, bad managers, Wenger. You get a Theo for every Joel. The ups, downs and in and arounds of football. These things eventually change if you wait long enough. The real piss take is the fact the club has been hijacked by cunts who are so greedy they don't even try to hide the piss take. They are busy making money hand over fist and they've taken a sport with all its traditions and history and fucked everything that was good out the window so they can leech every last drop from the fanaticism and loyalty of the fan base. Fuck them. They are vampires, but the kid that thrive on cash. You can boo them, scream at them, chuck stuff at them, stomp off, doesn't matter. They don't give a shit about any of that. You have to cut off their cash supply and threaten their future cash supplies, then they feel the hunger. Their goal is to set up their cosy little European league of "big teams" (who are all getting pissed on by Leicester, btw). Find a way to take that away from them, don't fund the fucking thing, fuck their plans up, piss on their parade for a change. That's how it has to be done.

Who is the most influential Arsenal voice that could organise such a boycott? This is what should be done.

[Gooner23]

That last part is important, got to cancel those TV subscriptions. That's where it's at now. There will always be people willing to pay silly money to get in the stadium but the cash they really care about (club and players) comes from those TV deals. An effective protest would be for ALL Arsenal fans to cancel their BT subscription. That would get noticed fast. It would have the added bonus of hitting the organisation that likes making ads taking the piss out of us, not that we don't deserve it. I think that could be organised a lot easier too and it wouldn't have to be 100% effective to get their attention.

Because it's not primarily the titles and the tactics and the effort of the players or any of the football stuff. Shit happens in football. You get good managers, bad managers, Wenger. You get a Theo for every Joel. The ups, downs and in and arounds of football. These things eventually change if you wait long enough. The real piss take is the fact the club has been hijacked by cunts who are so greedy they don't even try to hide the piss take. They are busy making money hand over fist and they've taken a sport with all its traditions and history and fucked everything that was good out the window so they can leech every last drop from the fanaticism and loyalty of the fan base. Fuck them. They are vampires, but the kid that thrive on cash. You can boo them, scream at them, chuck stuff at them, stomp off, doesn't matter. They don't give a shit about any of that. You have to cut off their cash supply and threaten their future cash supplies, then they feel the hunger. Their goal is to set up their cosy little European league of "big teams" (who are all getting pissed on by Leicester, btw). Find a way to take that away from them, don't fund the fucking thing, fuck their plans up, piss on their parade for a change. That's how it has to be done.

Who is the most influential Arsenal voice that could organise such a boycott? This is what should be done.

Agreed, and Wenger is 100% complicit in this. My respect for him has long since gone.

[selassie]

I haven't been to a match this season, I will be cancelling my red membership in the summer. I know it wont make a blind bit of difference to Kroenke and his cronies, but I am not prepared to give any more of my hard earned money to these thieves. Will continue to support the club I love, but sadly watching them live is out of the window for the time being. And before anyone asks I don't subscribe to sky or BT either.

Yep I'm cancelling mine too, I've had enough, I won't be watching another game this season on TV too, last night was the final straw for me.

[Power n Glory]

I haven't been to a match this season, I will be cancelling my red membership in the summer. I know it wont make a blind bit of difference to Kroenke and his cronies, but I am not prepared to give any more of my hard earned money to these thieves. Will continue to support the club I love, but sadly watching them live is out of the window for the time being. And before anyone asks I don't subscribe to sky or BT either.

I use streams and a sky go account to watch the games. Haven't been to a game in two years or so. Why stretch yourself for this lot?

[Niall_Quinn]

Why are ALL Brazillian CBs dodgy? Gabriel is starting to make those typical rash tackles/mistakes that Brazillian CBS make. Hope its just bad form cos he did look promissing when he first joined.

Koscielny out of the NLD so Gabriel and Merts will need to be solid.

Fans have to start looking more closely at what's happening on the pitch. Both Gabriel and Ramsey are coming in for a lot of flak. It's fair enough in one respect because they are making mistakes. But they are also contributing a lot more than people give them credit for. Both has pass accuracy of over 90% last night and both saw a lot of the ball. Gabriel had about 5 times more tackles and interceptions than Merts who essentially spent the night wandering around doing fuck all as the game passed him by. The latter didn't make any major mistakes, but then again he wasn't involved enough to fuck up. Ramsey may not have set the game alight but he was hustling as he always does. I heard a stat last night, our win rate when he's in the team is 60%, 40% when he's not. That's a vague stat but we're giving Santi a lot of credit when the stats are 50%, 50% by comparison. The standout culprits last night were Welbeck and Theo who did pretty much fuck all when they came on - to replace two busy players who gave twice the effort, Alexis and Campbell.

Most of the players are working. Ozil is still creating chances, Monreal and Bellerin are still putting in a shift, Coquelin is running his guts out. But in the absence of planning a lot of the effort is wasted. And we keep on seeing, over and over, the negative impact of relying on second tier strikers up front. If Mr Cheapskate Knowitall had spent some of that money robbed from the fans and put a decent striker up top you'd be looking at something very different now.

Try and dig out the post game Bilic interview from last night. Contrast the difference between that guy and the hapless fool we have running things. Listen as he describes the adjustments he made to the team and the tactics to counter the spuds and the key areas he decided his team needed to dominate if they were to get the result they wanted. Simple really. Manager makes a plan, tells the team, the team go out and execute the plan. Every effort is focused into an objective.

Our old fool? No plan at all. It's on the players to make it up as they go. And even when some of the players rise to the occasion and somehow create something from the chaos, the old goat will pull them off the pitch. He's a massive handicap to have to overcome. Yes certainly the players should be giving more, they should be more focused, making less mistakes, but look at what they have to overcome before they step foot on the pitch. We've set ourselves a huge challenging keeping this guy in charge.

[GP]

Arguably, we currently have the best squad we've had in ages., but right now we are as poor as we've been in recent memory.

Really, really dire.

[AFC Leveller]

Fans have to start looking more closely at what's happening on the pitch. Both Gabriel and Ramsey are coming in for a lot of flak. It's fair enough in one respect because they are making mistakes. But they are also contributing a lot more than people give them credit for. Both has pass accuracy of over 90% last night and both saw a lot of the ball. Gabriel had about 5 times more tackles and interceptions than Merts who essentially spent the night wandering around doing fuck all as the game passed him by. The latter didn't make any major mistakes, but then again he wasn't involved enough to fuck up. Ramsey may not have set the game alight but he was hustling as he always does. I heard a stat last night, our win rate when he's in the team is 60%, 40% when he's not. That's a vague stat but we're giving Santi a lot of credit when the stats are 50%, 50% by comparison. The standout culprits last night were Welbeck and Theo who did pretty much fuck all when they came on - to replace two busy players who gave twice the effort, Alexis and Campbell.

Most of the players are working. Ozil is still creating chances, Monreal and Bellerin are still putting in a shift, Coquelin is running his guts out. But in the absence of planning a lot of the effort is wasted. And we keep on seeing, over and over, the negative impact of relying on second tier strikers up front. If Mr Cheapskate Knowitall had spent some of that money robbed from the fans and put a decent striker up top you'd be looking at something very different now.

Try and dig out the post game Bilic interview from last night. Contrast the difference between that guy and the hapless fool we have running things. Listen as he describes the adjustments he made to the team and the tactics to counter the spuds and the key areas he decided his team needed to dominate if they were to get the result they wanted. Simple really. Manager makes a plan, tells the team, the team go out and execute the plan. Every effort is focused into an objective.

Our old fool? No plan at all. It's on the players to make it up as they go. And even when some of the players rise to the occasion and somehow create something from the chaos, the old goat will pull them off the pitch. He's a massive handicap to have to overcome. Yes certainly the players should be giving more, they should be more focused, making less mistakes, but look at what they have to overcome before they step foot on the pitch. We've set ourselves a huge challenging keeping this guy in charge.

Thats what i was thinking ahead of the NLD at the weekend. We all know there wont be any special plan or formation, he will tell them to the same things they did at Man u and last night hoping for better results.

[selassie]

Arguably, we currently have the best squad we've had in ages., but right now we are as poor as we've been in recent memory.

Really, really dire.

Yeah I agree with this, as NQ has said we lack any kind of organisation or game plan, it's pretty tragic to be honest. For the reasons you have stated I.E our best squad in recent memory it just confirms that Wenger has no idea what he is doing, he's totally lost in all of it. This season is turning into a car crash of epic proportions it's not even funny anymore.

[Niall_Quinn]

I use streams and a sky go account to watch the games. Haven't been to a game in two years or so. Why stretch yourself for this lot?

Same here. I got priced out of the games around the same time that cunt of a government was outsourcing every job in this country. So double whammy. I couldn't afford to go even if I wanted. £40 fucking quid just to get the train down there. I used to subscribe to Sky, £24 or something like that for the whole package. That was inflated up to £80 by the time I binned it. BT I got "free" with the broadband package until they changed the deal and started charging me £10 without even getting my ok. So that got binned.

Now I watch the streams and a borrowed Sky Go account, same as you. My contribution to this is precise zero pounds and zero pence and I'm happy about that because I used to pay but that wasn't enough, they had to take the piss and keep taking it. Nothing is enough for these bastards.

Plus the quality of the game in general is in the shitter. What the fuck has happened to football? It's becoming unwatchable anyway, regardless of who you support. Some fucking thing when you have to hold your hands up and admit Leicester City and the spuds are showing the rest what entertainment is about. Coincidentally (I don't think so) they are also getting the best results. The game is full of terrified managers who have gone all Maureen to keep their arses in their chairs, and a bunch of spoiled, pampered cunts who can't play more than a couple of games a month without moaning or breaking their fingernails.

Bottom line. Half the product, five times the price. Fuck that. Keep it and choke on it. I'm a pirate and I'm 100% comfortable with that. I'm stealing my game back.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

As you say with the lucrative tv deals there is no incentive to make attending football matches in person affordable