Match Reaction v Swansea at home (15/16)

[Gooner23]

It'll make a difference to you, mate - let the rest sort itself out.

To be honest, I'll probably never stop being an Arsenal fan - it's too ingrained in my psyche now - and I'll make sure my kid/s are brought up right, IF they show any interest in football (I can't say I'm inclined to encourage it at this point). But I just don't think I've got it in me to be one of the über-fans, who live and breathe football 24/7, any more - it's fucking exhausting, and there's just too much that I don't like about the game, the club and the coverage to make it worthwhile right now. I have precious little free time (and money!) as it is these days, after work, commuting and being a Dad, and I'm really not sure I want to devote much of what I have left of either to following football that closely? As sad as it's been for me to admit, I honestly think I'll be happier as a very casual fan from now on.

Hence my statement after the united game - I think that's me done as any kind of serious supporter.

I'll continue to support, of course I will. But I have definitely become more emotionally detached than I used to be. I find myself watching less and less of the prem than I used to. Still love the sport at a basic level though, fortunately I get my fix through playing and helping to run an amateur footy club.

[Power n Glory]

Whole country is a piss take tbf. The only prudent economic policy these days is to stay at home, under the bed, with a blanket over you because the heat is off. If you want a bath, wait until it rains. Want to eat? Poor cat.

One giant piss take and football is fast becoming the poster child for it. I don't hate economic inequality, in the main winners will do better than losers. But then you have Theo Walcott, he's like the casino trader of football. Fuck all in, shovel it out. And Wenger and the gang are the banksters, raking it in and charging even more when they need to build themselves palaces. Competition, fine - provided you actually compete. Communism - fuck right off.

TV deals is the place to hit them. It's like the IV line coming straight out of of veins and into their wallets.

How much do we take in at the stadium compared to the TV deals?

I think people walking from the stadium is a direct message. Sky and BT cost a bomb but some fans may subscribe for La Liga, F1, NBA, NFL, UFC…etc. It would take a lot more than Arsenal fans for them to notice imo. They don’t do the Spanish TV rights system where the teams with the most viewers get the bigger slices. But some sort of action is better than no action. We shouldn’t be putting up with this.

[Niall_Quinn]

How much do we take in at the stadium compared to the TV deals?

I think people walking from the stadium is a direct message. Sky and BT cost a bomb but some fans may subscribe for La Liga, F1, NBA, NFL, UFC…etc. It would take a lot more than Arsenal fans for them to notice imo. They don’t do the Spanish TV rights system where the teams with the most viewers get the bigger slices. But some sort of action is better than no action. We shouldn’t be putting up with this.

They're basing all their future piss takes on TV revenue. That's what props up all their plans. Chop that away and you make an impact. They monitor these things very carefully, they would notice and so would the media. The stadium thing is never going to happen. Too many fashion fans now, many of the real fans who might show some solidarity are stuck at home because they can't scrape up the various mortgages required to buy a ticket. Cancelling a subscription is a single phone call or a mouse click. Not much effort there. And the pirate streams are better quality anyway so the only loss is for the TV companies (who ruined the game) and the ghouls who have descended on the clubs. I think it could be and should be done. Get that Piers Morgan cunt to shout his mouth off for something useful for a change. Mind you - I wonder what the pundits and fellow travellers would really think about it. Might it threaten the scraps that fall into their mouths from the table? Would be interesting to find out.

[I am invisible]

That last part is important, got to cancel those TV subscriptions. That's where it's at now. There will always be people willing to pay silly money to get in the stadium but the cash they really care about (club and players) comes from those TV deals. An effective protest would be for ALL Arsenal fans to cancel their BT subscription. That would get noticed fast. It would have the added bonus of hitting the organisation that likes making ads taking the piss out of us, not that we don't deserve it. I think that could be organised a lot easier too and it wouldn't have to be 100% effective to get their attention.

Because it's not primarily the titles and the tactics and the effort of the players or any of the football stuff. Shit happens in football. You get good managers, bad managers, Wenger. You get a Theo for every Joel. The ups, downs and in and arounds of football. These things eventually change if you wait long enough. The real piss take is the fact the club has been hijacked by cunts who are so greedy they don't even try to hide the piss take. They are busy making money hand over fist and they've taken a sport with all its traditions and history and fucked everything that was good out the window so they can leech every last drop from the fanaticism and loyalty of the fan base. Fuck them. They are vampires, but the kid that thrive on cash. You can boo them, scream at them, chuck stuff at them, stomp off, doesn't matter. They don't give a shit about any of that. You have to cut off their cash supply and threaten their future cash supplies, then they feel the hunger. Their goal is to set up their cosy little European league of "big teams" (who are all getting pissed on by Leicester, btw). Find a way to take that away from them, don't fund the fucking thing, fuck their plans up, piss on their parade for a change. That's how it has to be done.

Who is the most influential Arsenal voice that could organise such a boycott? This is what should be done.

Chuck in the corruption at the top levels, the piss-poor quality of the players and the football these days, the way Sky and the Media are turning everything into a soap opera, the irritating pundits... at some point you've really got to stop and have a serious look at what we're actually getting out of it as fans?

Someone jokingly described it as a drug the other day, but I'm wondering if that isn't actually too far from the truth? It's certainly starting to feel more like an addiction than something enjoyable. I'd be interested to know many people of here keep going back for more because they genuinely still love it, and how many are doing it because they literally can't walk away, and don't know what they'd do with themselves if they did?

[Munchies]

Might not even get the Fa Cup this year

[Marc Overmars]

Might not even get the Fa Cup this year

No chance we're winning the Cup while Chelsea and United remain in the mix.

[Gooner23]

Couldn't care less about the cup this year anyway to be honest. This season was all about the league.

[Munchies]

No chance we're winning the Cup while Chelsea and United remain in the mix.

I can't even see us getting past Hull/Watford before then

[Munchies]

Couldn't care less about the cup this year anyway to be honest. This season was all about the league.

True.

Wenger will be defined by this season.

Penny pinching in the transfer window, getting tactically outworked time and time again, no back up plans, players shot of all confidence.

Same shit, different year, but this year was the chance

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

There are a few ministers of propaganda even now on Twitter blaming the fans for our poor form.