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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    Wenger does have to go but not because of yesterday.
    You don't say?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AFC Leveller View Post
    You'd think he would have asked the manager to play him there at least or on the right. I know he had a good season there last season but teams have worked him out and he is struggling to replicate his form.
    Unlikely - he prefers playing on the left...

    http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/arsenal-sta...t-left-1474610

    That being said, i'm surprised we haven't told him to play right or central more often, when the team has needed it. Or even just a handful of times as an experiment?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    Liverpool (A) 3-3
    Stoke (A) 0-0
    Chelsea (H) 0-1
    Burnley (H) 2-1
    Southampton (A) 0-0
    Bournemouth (A) 2-0
    Leicester (H) 2-1
    Hull City (H) 0-0
    Barcelona (H) 0-2
    Man U (A) 2-3
    Swansea City (H) 1-2
    Spurs (A) 0-0

    12 Games 3 Wins 5 Draws 4 Defeats in all competitions

    10 Points out of 24 Pointsin the league

    That's our form since the Liverpool game, truly dreadful, so yeah a draw yesterday was a poor result in the grand scheme of things, a win was a must and seeing as we are now 8 points behind Leicester with an inferior goal difference I'd say we're as good as out of it. City who have been dreadful all season as well if they win their game in hand would also leapfrog us which just shows how bad we've been.

    Wenger just has to go.
    The most unforgivable collapse of them all.

    Just do one, Wenger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost... View Post

    The ref was ridiculous in not sending Dier off though. Coquelin's was a blatant second yellow but why wasn't that?
    Because... "thats the sort of 'luck' you get as the home team"

    The ref didn't want to be torn apart by a bunch of snivelling primordial apes upon his escape from that concrete rectum.
    Ten men & a mobile phone...

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    I'm not going to PEDdle any theories, but Leicester have used 18 players all season and had no injuries...


    perhaps we should be nicking their medical team

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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    That's our form since the Liverpool game, truly dreadful, so yeah a draw yesterday was a poor result in the grand scheme of things, a win was a must and seeing as we are now 8 points behind Leicester with an inferior goal difference I'd say we're as good as out of it. City who have been dreadful all season as well if they win their game in hand would also leapfrog us which just shows how bad we've been.

    Wenger just has to go.
    I agree that Wenger has to go, if we had lost yesterday, I would have hoped he'd be gone by the hull game. However, one small glimmer of hope is that when city won their first title, they were 8 points behind with 6 games (i think, it wasn't many thats for sure) to go and they somehow won it. I'm not saying that means we will, but we have the players and i'd say of the three sides we have the easier fixtures. Spurs have the hardest and Leicester have some tough ones left too.

    I agree that in the grand scheme of things, we had to win yesterday, but in the context of the match, a point was a very good one given what happened. Spurs might be only 5 points behind rather then 8, but we've seen them choke before when even further ahead and that was for 4th place! There are a few twists and turns left in this race, i don't think we will win it, but you never know.

    Whatever happens though, Wenger should not be manager next season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AFC Leveller View Post
    I thought Sanchez' goal showed that the guy is wasted down the left, his run in behind was so good and his first time finish caught their GK by surprise. He should be playing either behind Giroud on the right. teams have clocke don to him on the lft, he comes inside and either has a blocked shot or a cross that doesnt beat the first man. He is an explosive finisher and needs to play in the middle IMO.
    Play him as a CF, he has the same build as Suarez and Aguero. He could definitely hack it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    Liverpool (A) 3-3
    Stoke (A) 0-0
    Chelsea (H) 0-1
    Burnley (H) 2-1
    Southampton (A) 0-0
    Bournemouth (A) 2-0
    Leicester (H) 2-1
    Hull City (H) 0-0
    Barcelona (H) 0-2
    Man U (A) 2-3
    Swansea City (H) 1-2
    Spurs (A) 0-0

    12 Games 3 Wins 5 Draws 4 Defeats in all competitions

    10 Points out of 24 Pointsin the league

    That's our form since the Liverpool game, truly dreadful, so yeah a draw yesterday was a poor result in the grand scheme of things, a win was a must and seeing as we are now 8 points behind Leicester with an inferior goal difference I'd say we're as good as out of it. City who have been dreadful all season as well if they win their game in hand would also leapfrog us which just shows how bad we've been.

    Wenger just has to go.
    And this was with our players returning from injury. Those last 5 minutes against Liverpool, this is when Wenger perfected the art of bottling. We'd been building up to it before that game, refusing to press on and stamp our authority on matches, preferring to go negative and settle for what we had. I suspect two factors contributed. One, we had Cech in goal so he thought he could abuse the fact, just another form of disrespecting the opponent which Wenger excels at. Second he'd failed to act in the transfer market, as usual, and the one key player who had somehow managed to grasp his fucked up boreball and make it work - Cazorla - had no like for like cover. Wilshere dead, Ramsey incapable, Rosicky of course dead, but these were the players Wenger decided could get him through a season despite their long established injury records. He'll say he got unlucky but that's like saying we don't need to spend in the transfer window because we have Diaby who can play there. Stupid.

    Anyway, he bottled against an appalling Liverpool and so began the latest in a long line of Wenger engineered collapses. It's the regularity of these collapses that's the problem. Do it once and you can say okay, that's football, we'll learn. But Wenger doesn't learn anything useful. He'll learn the shitty stuff, like how to con the fans during a transfer window or how to target an individual and place the burden on him, leave it to that player to rescue something from a fatally flawed and underfunded system. But you collapse like this repeatedly and obviously there's a major problem. Even then you can just so okay, he's not a good manager. No need to go overboard, show a bit of respect, ask the guy to go.

    Here's where the vitriol comes from though. Wenger is one of "them" not one of "us". He works for them. He makes them rich while scalping us. And he lies about it. That's where the growing hatred comes from. This is not a normal shit manager situation. This is something much worse. His negativity this season shows he's not in it to win a title, he's in it to secure revenue. We know that from his inactivity in the transfer window, from his long-standing refusal to add the few pieces we've needed to complete the squad. Form the arrogance and carelessness with which he bumbled his way through another CL campaign. Bare minimum on the pitch - maximum, lavish returns off it. And the lies. This is Wenger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ollie the Optimist View Post
    I'm not going to PEDdle any theories, but Leicester have used 18 players all season and had no injuries...


    perhaps we should be nicking their medical team
    Not the medical team - the coaches. You want to prevent the injuries in the first place. Anyway, it depends what you call an injury. Is a broken fingernail an injury? At Arsenal yes, at Leicester maybe no. Maybe the players are a bit less precious over there. All I know, is during an era where it was legitimate to kick the shit out of each other on a football pitch, Liverpool would win title after title with 14 players. So did Forest. There's an argument that modern footballers are highly tuned athletes. Okay, but I wonder what would happen if the our team from a decade ago went up against the current lot of pansy "highly tuned athletes"? Ouch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by milla View Post
    Play him as a CF, he has the same build as Suarez and Aguero. He could definitely hack it.
    Of course. But it' one of those smash you in the face obvious things that could never be considered. He's great in the air too. But I prefer him isolated on the wing, surrounded by opposition with his team mates standing there watching and doing fuck all.
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