Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
FA Cup this season would feel like a consolation prize, granted, because the league was there for the taking this year and we've cocked it up royally.
What is a "major" trophy is not quantifiable but the reaction to the FA Cup was partly relief about winning a trophy after so long and partly a recognition of the FA Cup's history and status.
No-one would have been reacting like that over a league Cup win. No-one would have supported Wenger signing a new contract on the back of it.


Really? You're doing the "you know you are, you said you are" thing again? Sheesh.
You're just repeating what I already said but then you spin the argument on its head by using the league cup as the comparison.

The 4th Place Trophy may well be the biggest problem we have at this club. I would like to see the FA Cup elevated back to its original status. I don't like what has happened to it, how it has been sidelined by "all about the cash" tournaments like the CL. I especially don't like it that our manager believes coming 4th is something to sing about. He should be ashamed of constantly being an also-ran but the cash coming in from the CL allows him to create and celebrate his 4th Place Trophy and many of the fans buy into it. Even the media goes on about 19 years successive 4th Place Trophy winners as if it is something to brag about. That's how far away from being winners we are and look at how many people have been convinced. What they are really doing is paying homage to the cash and fucking an historic tournament like the FA Cup out the window. This is at the root of what is wrong with football.

So while I don't want the FA Cup to be a minor trophy, all the evidence says it is. Killed by cash and Wenger's ridiculous 4th Place Trophy (in terms of our club). It's a reserve team trophy. When Hull can't be arsed to field a full strength team then we know the score. And poxy man utd started the ball rolling downhill when the cunts couldn't even be bothered to turn up, because they had cash on the table elsewhere. The glory of cash, not sport. Now they are trying to ditch replays, shunt all the games to midweek, the whole essence of the competition is long since dead and you know it because you're old enough to remember when it meant something and you can make the simple comparison. So let's stop pretending.

You say Wenger's philosophy is "unfortunate", I say it's a bloody disgrace. Anti-football, pro-money. He's one of the guys who helped kill the FA Cup. Of course in recent years it's suddenly valuable again, for the PR doctors at least.