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Thread: Match Reaction - Arsenal 1-2 Watford - Wenger Out

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    Quote Originally Posted by adzzzbatch View Post
    "For the 10th home game in all competitions we failed to take a lead into the half-time break."

    Fucking atrocious.
    I don't think our home form has ever been this bad in the Emirates era. It's scary how comfortable visiting teams make themselves now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by selassie View Post
    Aye, it's been like this for a while now, yesterday's game was depressing but so inevitable. I've got to the stage know where I'm not even fussed if we finish top 4 this season, what difference does it make to the team or our transfer policy if we finish top 4 or not? Probably no difference. We're going to lose our best players if we continue in this cycle anyway.
    The resignation is the culmination of many years of the same scenario played out in similar ways. It's said that the 5 stages of grief are denial; anger; bargaining (if only) depression; acceptance. Maybe stages 2 and 3 have been reversed in the case of our team, but we fans are definitely now at stages 4/5. The reason that this seems to have come so quickly now is that we all essentially know that Wenger's decline has been happening for a long time - but this season above all has provided conclusive proof that there is going to be no bounce back under Wenger. His 'genius' has been to prolong the process for so long. It pisses me off when it is suggested that we Gooners are fickle or self - entitled, because the opposite is the case. Maybe we are used to having it pretty good - but the reality is that for a club of our resources, expectations are completely understandable.

    So...we waited for the stadium project to resolve itself and put up with our best players leaving, and the constant rebuilding process; we waited patiently for our developmental players to blossom; we thought optimistically that a couple of Cup wins would develop into a winning habit; we swallowed the idea that success would be a gradual thing while we lived with the billionaires investing in the EPL, and we saw the signing of 'world class' players as the missing part of the jigsaw, and waited for them to lift the team to another level. All the time, we saw the flaws in the manager's methods but even cynical fans held out the hope (against hope?) that our instincts might be proved wrong. But in a season where the standard of our league is the worst for years and we have seen an almost impossible blow up of the competition - we have not only failed to capitalise, but have gone backwards - and now our intelligence is being insulted by a manager in denial himself, and an owner who has chosen the worst possible time to show publicly his true colours.

    Honestly - ATM I am struggling to see where the justification is for confidence about our club going forwards.
    Putting the laughter back into manslaughter

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    Quote Originally Posted by IBK View Post
    The resignation is the culmination of many years of the same scenario played out in similar ways. It's said that the 5 stages of grief are denial; anger; bargaining (if only) depression; acceptance. Maybe stages 2 and 3 have been reversed in the case of our team, but we fans are definitely now at stages 4/5. The reason that this seems to have come so quickly now is that we all essentially know that Wenger's decline has been happening for a long time - but this season above all has provided conclusive proof that there is going to be no bounce back under Wenger. His 'genius' has been to prolong the process for so long. It pisses me off when it is suggested that we Gooners are fickle or self - entitled, because the opposite is the case. Maybe we are used to having it pretty good - but the reality is that for a club of our resources, expectations are completely understandable.

    So...we waited for the stadium project to resolve itself and put up with our best players leaving, and the constant rebuilding process; we waited patiently for our developmental players to blossom; we thought optimistically that a couple of Cup wins would develop into a winning habit; we swallowed the idea that success would be a gradual thing while we lived with the billionaires investing in the EPL, and we saw the signing of 'world class' players as the missing part of the jigsaw, and waited for them to lift the team to another level. All the time, we saw the flaws in the manager's methods but even cynical fans held out the hope (against hope?) that our instincts might be proved wrong. But in a season where the standard of our league is the worst for years and we have seen an almost impossible blow up of the competition - we have not only failed to capitalise, but have gone backwards - and now our intelligence is being insulted by a manager in denial himself, and an owner who has chosen the worst possible time to show publicly his true colours.

    Honestly - ATM I am struggling to see where the justification is for confidence about our club going forwards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    I don't think our home form has ever been this bad in the Emirates era. It's scary how comfortable visiting teams make themselves now.
    Then you have the manager blaming the fans for making his players nervous!

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    Quote Originally Posted by adzzzbatch View Post
    Then you have the manager blaming the fans for making his players nervous!
    How dare you have an opinion. Just give us your cash and STFU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    How dare you have an opinion. Just give us your cash and STFU.
    Be aware that not all undesirables have been priced out yet. You are going to get these types piping up for at least a couple more seasons until we can get the Euro League underway. Please play along for the time being. They'll be gone soon enough.
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    Theo's secret meeting!

    Arsecast ripping him. Rightly so. The players need to keep their mouths shut.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IBK View Post
    The resignation is the culmination of many years of the same scenario played out in similar ways. It's said that the 5 stages of grief are denial; anger; bargaining (if only) depression; acceptance. Maybe stages 2 and 3 have been reversed in the case of our team, but we fans are definitely now at stages 4/5. The reason that this seems to have come so quickly now is that we all essentially know that Wenger's decline has been happening for a long time - but this season above all has provided conclusive proof that there is going to be no bounce back under Wenger. His 'genius' has been to prolong the process for so long. It pisses me off when it is suggested that we Gooners are fickle or self - entitled, because the opposite is the case. Maybe we are used to having it pretty good - but the reality is that for a club of our resources, expectations are completely understandable.

    So...we waited for the stadium project to resolve itself and put up with our best players leaving, and the constant rebuilding process; we waited patiently for our developmental players to blossom; we thought optimistically that a couple of Cup wins would develop into a winning habit; we swallowed the idea that success would be a gradual thing while we lived with the billionaires investing in the EPL, and we saw the signing of 'world class' players as the missing part of the jigsaw, and waited for them to lift the team to another level. All the time, we saw the flaws in the manager's methods but even cynical fans held out the hope (against hope?) that our instincts might be proved wrong. But in a season where the standard of our league is the worst for years and we have seen an almost impossible blow up of the competition - we have not only failed to capitalise, but have gone backwards - and now our intelligence is being insulted by a manager in denial himself, and an owner who has chosen the worst possible time to show publicly his true colours.

    Honestly - ATM I am struggling to see where the justification is for confidence about our club going forwards.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    Theo's secret meeting!

    Arsecast ripping him. Rightly so. The players need to keep their mouths shut.
    When I heard Theo talking about that I knew it would come back to bite them

    Firstly a meeting shouldnt be needed for players to be reminded they have to give a fuck, and secondly if you are going to have one dont make it public and brag about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gooner23 View Post
    When I heard Theo talking about that I knew it would come back to bite them

    Firstly a meeting shouldnt be needed for players to be reminded they have to give a fuck, and secondly if you are going to have one dont make it public and brag about it.
    There is so much fundamentally wrong at our club

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