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Thread: Match Reaction - Arsenal 1-2 Watford - Wenger Out

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeebus View Post
    Petit has also been disrespecting Wenger now, saying he should step aside.

    I mean how disgusting, just like those silly Arsenal fans

    http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/f...-a6933821.html

    http://m.goal.com/s/en/news/1862/pre...oogle.co.uk%2F
    I think the problem with what Manu Petit is suggesting is that technically we should already have that setup with Steve Bould but we know full well that Bould has only ever intermittently been able to contribute to Wengers set up.

    Wenger is a micro manager, we know he's not confrontational about it but you can tell he has nodding dog syndrome with any advice he gets that contradicts his own counsel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    All we need is a caretaker manager until the summer. An extremely simple thing to do, there must be hundreds of potential candidates. The "who could replace him" fallback is nothing more than a last resort delaying tactic. Hiddink is doing the job down the road right now, the chavs having sacked their manager because he fucked up big time, just like ours has done, again, predictably. I'd put Bould in charge for the rest of the season. Considering the current manager couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery an old pro like Bould could at least get the basics right and stop the rot. Or even Cech could do it. Plenty of options, all that's missing is the will but that has been the problem all along.
    Remi Garde may be available soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Loblaw View Post
    Remi Garde may be available soon.
    Schooled in the ways of the Wenger - must get.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    The caretaker manager makes the process real. Which top manager is going to hang around waiting for us to make an unlikely decision in the summer? They'll be able to go with the "but who is there" excuse. And Bould could at least organise the team. Our results would pick up - I'd bet money on it. True, we aren't winning it now, no matter who could come in, but it might make a few players reconsider their options if stuff like shape, tactics, defending, shooting made a comeback at the club. What could it hurt?
    But as I say the damage is done and to have any actual impact should have been done a month ago

    Also we all know there's only one person in the club who could affect such a change and would lose his job for even thinking about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    But as I say the damage is done and to have any actual impact should have been done 10 years ago.
    Fixed.

    I know, I know. But if we are going to try to eke a bit of enjoyment from this season then fantasising about Wenger pissing off is about all there is left. So leave me be.
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    Except I don't think Wenger should have been sacked ten years ago

    What should have happened when the likes of Dein and Edelman left is that he shouldn't have been left to his own devices for so long, to the point now where he assumes he is Atlas.

    Then I think surrounded with more football people, he wouldn't have been in sole charge of everything football related and the board would have no excuse to delay succession like it has.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Fixed.

    I know, I know. But if we are going to try to eke a bit of enjoyment from this season then fantasising about Wenger pissing off is about all there is left. So leave me be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    Except I don't think Wenger should have been sacked ten years ago.
    Nor does NQ. Or if he does then that is a recent change of view.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kano View Post
    I'm not entirely convinced myself. It may well be more wishful thinking on the fans part, than anything else. A guy who has so much control and influence over the club I believe would see a drop out of the top four as a blip, a small dent in his consistent record and one that he could rectify the following season. His ego is huge - which isn't a problem for me, as that is needed to be in charge of 20-30 younger egos every day. However, I think the echo coming back from the board would be he is safe out of the top four, that he is the man who can fix it again. They have no-one else and are probably terrified of breaking the status quo and safety net he has provided for them. Rolling the dice means risking revenue. The board are up shits creek when he leaves because there are no 'football men' inside the club holding influential positions, which is why they won't let him go completely. His natural progression will be upstairs in one form or the other - and no doubt handpicking his successor.
    Don't blame you for your scepticism! Wouldn't surprise me either for him to see dropping out of top 4 as a 'blip' - but generally (with the exceptions of the Assads of this world) there comes a time when even megalomaniacs see the writing on the wall - and Wenger is in a business where detractors can be very voluble - albeit that the fans hold relatively little sway. I just can't see his ego living with a very obvious decline - surely there has to come a point where he cannot defend himself any more? Totally agree with you re the clueless board and only a fool would bet against Wenger staying in some director, or similar, capacity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post


    But I don't agree with the Director of Football idea. What good will he be? He'll need to step away from the club fully for a few years so the new manager has freedom.
    I agree, I'd actually rather he just becomes some kind of ambassador for the club and isn't moved upstairs as we really don't want his influence to continue

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