Barca v Arsenal - Match Reaction

[Niall_Quinn]

Just looked at the fixtures of ourselves and the Spuds

they have Pool/Chelsea/Stoke/Newcastle away and United at home left

Our hardest games are tomorrow, West Ham away and City away

Surely we can finish above them? Win our game in hand and we're 3 off.

The spuds will choke, collapse and die. It's the only thing more certain in life than us doing the same.

[Power n Glory]

Özil needs to score more goals

But he is a player that should not be criticized for not adjusting his game. Alexis Sanchez is the biggest culprit for that he thinks he is a #10 when he is nowhere near good enough for the role and it gets into Ozil position.





Only positives were Elneny, but also Iwobi looking like a future star. That kid is special.

That's all it boils down to. Each player has to look at their own performances and see what more they can do to contribute in order push us over the line. That doesn't excuse Sanchez, Giroud and the rest but that also doens't excuse Ozil.

From my perspective, we criticise the players for passing too much and Ozil is one of the most unselfish players we have and I would like to see him have a go himself when we're really struggling to score. I know some will hate the comparison, but in Cesc's best seasons for us (07/08.) he scored 13 and had 22 assists. (09/10) 19 goals and 20 assists.

[Mr. Lahey]

The biggest problem is Wenger and the decision he made over the summer not to sign a striker. Since we can't solve the transfer problem now and it looks like Giroud is out of goals, we need others to step up on shooting duty. Ozil falls into that category but he's not the biggest problem.

In fact, the conversation started with Ozil's reaction to the defeat and people worrying about him leaving. Honesty, i'm beyond the point of worrying About players leaving. It's inevitable if Wenger stays on and Wenger out the door has to be first priority. The next manager may have other plans and may want to bring in his own players or build around a different type of player so I'm not really fussed about what happens with this current team.

Agreed, it was criminal that he did not add an outfield player and agree overall about ozil needing to score more.

The club needs to stop with this revolving door when it comes to our star players. Its creating such negative culture around our club, the way we are viewed across Europe, it needs to stop IMO if we want to be regarded as a European powerhouse. Cech, Sanchez, Ozil is a good start, we need to keep these players as they are the type of quality we need going forward.

[mastermind84]

That's all it boils down to. Each player has to look at their own performances and see what more they can do to contribute in order push us over the line. That doesn't excuse Sanchez, Giroud and the rest but that also doens't excuse Ozil.

From my perspective, we criticise the players for passing too much and Ozil is one of the most unselfish players we have and I would like to see him have a go himself when we're really struggling to score. I know some will hate the comparison, but in Cesc's best seasons for us (07/08.) he scored 13 and had 22 assists. (09/10) 19 goals and 20 assists.

the thing is, im not sure Ozil is actually passing too much.

Its not like Hleb where he refused to shoot. Ozil takes it when available. He needs to score more, but the expectation of Ozil has been met.

To say we would be the same with Santi Cazorla who flat out cannot shoot is a nonsensical statement.

Also, iirc you mentioned Iniesta earlier. Iniesta is even worse than Ozil in goal output. Ozil should score more, but thats like reason #200 as to why Arsenal are not successful this season whereas Alexis' play is easily top 5.

[Özim]

Zlatan Ibrahimovic: Arsene Wenger 'surprised' to be linked with striker

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35842214


Top player but at 34 probably not far from the end of his career, can't see this happening though.

[mastermind84]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35842214


Top player but at 34 probably not far from the end of his career, can't see this happening though.

he is a top player and will probably be great over next year or so.

Wont happen because Arsene does not think like that but it would be a great signing.

[KSE Comedy Club]

We should have got him in the summer - even on loan.

Would've been a game changer

[Niall_Quinn]

he is a top player and will probably be great over next year or so.

Wont happen because Arsene does not think like that but it would be a great signing.

He'd be pissed off within a month and he's not the sort of character who would put up with it. He's a showcase player, no way would he be up for the 4th place trophy and the Last 16 Cup. And the danger of him coming here to cruise through a final pay day would be too great. What would he want £250K+ per week?

[Özim]

He'd be pissed off within a month and he's not the sort of character who would put up with it. He's a showcase player, no way would he be up for the 4th place trophy and the Last 16 Cup. And the danger of him coming here to cruise through a final pay day would be too great. What would he want £250K+ per week?

He won't come here, don't think he'd have any interest in becoming a 4th place bottler, I agree he'd have enough in no time. He may tell a few people some home truths if he came though, wouldn't go down well though as most of these bottlers think they are the muts nuts thanks to Wenger.

[Power n Glory]

the thing is, im not sure Ozil is actually passing too much.

Its not like Hleb where he refused to shoot. Ozil takes it when available. He needs to score more, but the expectation of Ozil has been met.

To say we would be the same with Santi Cazorla who flat out cannot shoot is a nonsensical statement.

Also, iirc you mentioned Iniesta earlier. Iniesta is even worse than Ozil in goal output. Ozil should score more, but thats like reason #200 as to why Arsenal are not successful this season whereas Alexis' play is easily top 5.

If he needs to score more how has expectation been met?

Also, I didn't say we'd be the same with Cazorla. To be more precise, I'd have taken a top quality striker like Suarez over Ozil if it was one or the other. But that's another debate. Hindsight also.

But really no point in dragging this out. Ozil needs to score more goals. That's what we agree on.