He's like the Donald Trump of the transfer market
"I could have had sex with Princess Diana"
He's like the Donald Trump of the transfer market
"I could have had sex with Princess Diana"
As long as Dick Law and co go back in with a proper offer this summer, hopefully we'll land him.
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
I bet it's heads
*flips* Tails.
I bet it's heads
*flips* Tails.
I bet it's heads
*flips* Tails.
I bet it's heads
*flips* Heads
Told ya
You say "He should have been sacked years ago" and yet 2 years ago you backed his contract renewal on the back of the FA Cup. He was a safe pair of hands when the money wasn't as readily available. When it became available it DID make a difference in terms of a new level of signings and resultant trophies. Now it's clear that he's not able to push us further but it wasn't clear years ago because we didn't then have the money to compete as seriously. Now we do, it's made a difference but not enough of one. He deserved a couple of years to try, the FA Cup retention arguably bought him one more try but this was the last chance. He's cocked it up so yes, he has to go, but it wasn't inevitable he would. The weaknesses he has are not sudden developments, they have always been there and didn't stop us winning big trophies before.
Maybe another manager would have been better in the last 10 years but I would suggest plenty would have been worse. He's not been as poor as you make out and our failure this year wasn't inevitable.
Letters, you need to read the responses if you want to have a two way conversation.
I bet it's heads
*flips* Tails.
I bet it's heads
*flips* Tails.
I bet it's heads
*flips* Tails.
I bet it's heads
*flips* Heads
Told ya
You say "He should have been sacked years ago" and yet 2 years ago you backed his contract renewal on the back of the FA Cup. He was a safe pair of hands when the money wasn't as readily available. When it became available it DID make a difference in terms of a new level of signings and resultant trophies. Now it's clear that he's not able to push us further but it wasn't clear years ago because we didn't then have the money to compete as seriously. Now we do, it's made a difference but not enough of one. He deserved a couple of years to try, the FA Cup retention arguably bought him one more try but this was the last chance. He's cocked it up so yes, he has to go, but it wasn't inevitable he would. The weaknesses he has are not sudden developments, they have always been there and didn't stop us winning big trophies before.
Maybe another manager would have been better in the last 10 years but I would suggest plenty would have been worse. He's not been as poor as you make out and our failure this year wasn't inevitable.
As for your analogy, why do you need a coin to predict what happens at Arsenal every season? when the same thing happens every time you don't need the coin. Give the coin to Wenger and his mates, to add to all the other ones.
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Re Wenger's management (or lack thereof) of the team and the way we play.
This is not a new thing. Wenger has always been like this. He sets the team up to play a certain way but gives the players freedom too. People keep on picking up faults Wenger has and acting like he's suddenly developed these faults. He hasn't.
Wenger's job is results, When he won big trophies it was because we had a better team than everyone else. He let the players express themselves and they did the rest, helped by a strong captain. Now we don't have a strong captain and we don't have a better side than everyone else and with the money sloshing around in the game we're unlikely to again.
BUT we do have a better team than most. We have a better team than Swansea, or Watford, or a very weakened Utd side. The players don't get off the hook for those results. IMO the lack of a strong captain to demand more of them in games like that - Wenger has always needed that to help him - is the biggest factor in our recent collapse.
But, ultimately, Wenger is responsible for results. The buck stops with him. But I don't absolve the players of blame. You shouldn't need a manager to kick you up the collective backside when you're 2 nil down against Watford and you're going out of the Cup. They showed in the last 10 minutes what they can play like, just get going 10 minutes earlier and we'd have won. The twats.
The last four seasons have followed an incredibly specific pattern
12/13 - terrible first half of season, good run of form second half when no chance of winning title
13/14 - in contention first half of the season, collapse in February/March
14/15 - copy and paste from 12/13
15/16 - copy and paste from 13/14
Last four seasons in champions league finished 2nd in group, lost first leg at home
And the FA cup wins are the equivalent of the Raquel Welch poster in Shawshank Redemption
This totally his fault, if we don't have a strong captain it's because he publicly said he doesn't see the important of a captain, there lies the problem, he never looks for leadership in players because he doesn't feel it's necessary. If you manage the way he does then you need to make sure you have certain players who do the job you can't.
If you go out and sign players with no leadership and players who require motivation rather than doing things off their own back you do need a manager to do this, he doesn't make up for hsi inadequacies by looking for players who can make up for them, again totally his fault.
If he can't motivate a team or tactically drill them and setup them up to succeed and he needs players to do their own thing (not great management IMO) then he should sign players who can do the job, not rely on kids and muppets with no leadership or organisational skills whatsoever.
I don't absolve the players either. As pointless as it might be, they should still be earning their considerable wages and paying due respect to the fans. What I'm saying is ALL the problems stem from Wenger. ALL of them. Not going through them one by one, unless you insist, but Wenger's mismanagement and his lack of ambition is the catalyst for every other fault. He's the control freak manager who has more power than any other manager in world football. He can't have his cake and eat it (except apparently he can). If the players aren't delivering then it falls to him to do something about that. It doesn't matter if the players themselves ought to be doing more. That should be their default position, they shouldn't have an option. Either play for the shirt or get out, and it's Wenger's job to make sure that happens.
Let's look at this using the scientific method. Both of us formed a hypothesis 2 years ago that anticipated better fortunes for the club due to increased revenues, better players and a long awaited trophy win. Then the seasons played out and now, with this season, we have very clear results. This means our hypothesis was WRONG. The proof does not tally with our predictions - probably because it's naive to base such predictions on hope. Therefore, despite the extra revenue, despite the better players, despite getting that trophy jinx off his back, Wenger is incapable of utilising those benefits to fulfil the stated long term aims of the club. Therefore he is not suitable to manage the club. The fact he has taken us backwards, coupled with the damning record of the last 10 years is a damning indictment of his suitability. A better hypothesis, in hindsight, would suggest had we sacked Wenger 2 years ago we'd be in a better position now. We can't prove it, because we took the other route and obtained a different set of results. However, what we can say with certainly, based on the evidence, is Wenger should be sacked. Today.
Others reached this conclusion a long time ago. They weren't prepared to give Wenger the benefit of the doubt and as it turns out they were right. Wherever fans stand now, whatever they predicted and when, the most important thing is that Wenger is sacked at the earliest possible moment. That is not happening and that leads us to an even bigger problem.
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Our style of football has completely changed in that time as well though.
His 20 years are like two contrasting sides. The first 10 years was tough playing, fast, counter attacking football with the fancy stuff thrown in for fun because we could.
However the last 10 years have been slow, technical (technically bad tbh), tippy tappy, passing instead of shooting, boringly predictable, uninspiring, namby pamby, slow & boring drivel.
It's no surprise to see that when you take the decent game out of the players then the faults of wengers management and his 'vision' of how the game should be played are laid bare for all to see.
And he comes up drastically short.
Same thing happens every season, we're the most predictable club in the world, you know before the season starts what's going to happen, yes people hope it will be different, but after years of the same hope begins to dissipate away and you're just waiting for the inevitable.
The manager and team have no bottle, buck stops with him though, he signs the players, coaches them and tells them what to do, not the other way round, if they don't show up or perform, they should be replaced or given some kinda motivation.
He doesn't do this so every season it's the same, not to mention the fact he has the audacity of relying on crocks who again are injured for long parts of every season and yet he continues to believe they'll manage to stay fit. He really needs his head examined tbh, because there's very little logic in his methods.
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