Who Will Win The League - 2

[fakeyank]

Still not a bigger mess than man city man united or chelsea

Yup, we are much better off compared to those 3. They only have all the PL titles since we won in 2004 and 2 champions league between them.

We have 2 FA Cups and many 4th place trophies.

[Niall_Quinn]

Still not a bigger mess than man city man united or chelsea

They will correct their problems swiftly and decisively - well maybe not Utd but the other two will. We have Wenger and Kroenke.

[Letters]

Yup, we are much better off compared to those 3. They only have all the PL titles since we won in 2004 and 2 champions league between them.

We have 2 FA Cups and many 4th place trophies.

Why use that timeframe? Surely what is most relevant is what's going on now. Over the last couple of seasons I guess you could say City and Chelsea have done better having won a title each, no-one else has. But yeah, Wenger's an idiot who hasn't got a clue what he's doing

[Özim]

Yup, we are much better off compared to those 3. They only have all the PL titles since we won in 2004 and 2 champions league between them.

We have 2 FA Cups and many 4th place trophies.

We've also qualified for the CL for 50 years in a row and won it....er nevermind

[Niall_Quinn]

We've also qualified for the CL for 50 years in a row and won it....er nevermind

The Last 16 Cup is a major trophy.

[Özim]

Why use that timeframe? Surely what is most relevant is what's going on now. Over the last couple of seasons I guess you could say City and Chelsea have done better having won a title each, no-one else has. But yeah, Wenger's an idiot who hasn't got a clue what he's doing

In that time, they've grown as clubs, become more marketable and have developed a bigger fan base Internationally, yes they've had one bad season but overall they've got some major success under their belt.

As for the last bit, can't disagree with any of that

[Özim]

The Last 16 Cup is a major trophy.

We're spoilt really, we should thank our lucky stars we're so successful and that we have a saint who is superior in knowledge to every else on the planet due to his 20,000 substitutions as manager.

[Letters]

In that time, they've grown as clubs, become more marketable and have developed a bigger fan base Internationally, yes they've had one bad season but overall they've got some major success under their belt.

Sure. All by spending shitloads of money in an era when we couldn't.
Now we're more able to compete with them financially we've started winning trophies again and this year it looks like we'll finish above all of those sides.
Still below Leicester though and it seems Wenger isn't able to push us on any further but the last 10 years have not been the unmitigated failure you make out. There was a period of belt tightening during which IMO Wenger did pretty well to keep us in the top 4. The money is there now so we need to push on, we have to an extent in terms of the trophies and the level of players we've signed but this season was the one when we really needed to push on and we haven't. So Wenger should step aside. That doesn't make everything he's done over the last 10 years wrong.

[Özim]

Sure. All by spending shitloads of money in an era when we couldn't.
Now we're more able to compete with them financially we've started winning trophies again and this year it looks like we'll finish above all of those sides.
Still below Leicester though and it seems Wenger isn't able to push us on any further but the last 10 years have not been the unmitigated failure you make out. There was a period of belt tightening during which IMO Wenger did pretty well to keep us in the top 4. The money is there now so we need to push on, we have to an extent in terms of the trophies and the level of players we've signed but this season was the one when we really needed to push on and we haven't. So Wenger should step aside. That doesn't make everything he's done over the last 10 years wrong.

The reason Wenger gets so much grief now is the way he behaves, let's be honest, he's patronising, incredibly stubborn, always blaming other factors and never really taking responsibility of willing to criticise his team.

He also point blank refuses to acknowledge problems that have been there for a long time, he's his own worst enemy.

He could make it so much easier for himself is he was more humble, it seems to me he's become more and more arrogant over the years, some of the stuff he comes out with is just unacceptable and really shows he doesn't have any respect for the people who actually page his wages (the fans).

Arrogance of that level from someone who isn't who's has so little success in the last 10 years is hard to understand and hard to swallow, but I guess he feels his job is so secure and the board and owners are so keen to praise him that he clearly feels that's he's a massive success.

[Dicks and chicks]

They will correct their problems swiftly and decisively - well maybe not Utd but the other two will. We have Wenger and Kroenke.

Pep will struggle here mark my words. the small teams will be too strong for him, chelsea have lost their team mentality, they worked too hard to achieve things in the short term, they dont have the togetherness thats required.