Both quotes are old and he's often been consistent with his views up until now.That article is from 2013 but I would also be sceptical of him wanting to take up such a role for numerous reasons. I think when he does leave he is more likely to be consulted on a private basis......basically like Fergie now is. Nothing too official or on record.
It's not debt....it's just borrowed aspiration :-)Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
I think any role Wenger were to take up post managerial would largely be ceremonial, i actually agree with his views about the director of football
Whilst i don't think Wenger should be here anymore, it makes sense for he or any other manager to have the ultimate say on what players come and what players leave.
What he should not be doing however is determining the market value of players he wishes to buy, if he wants a player that should be that....leave it up to the club to determine how much they pay.
Spot on.
I agree with his views on that as well. The manager should always have the ultimate decision except when it comes to the market value. Surprised to hear he’s considering the role.
The board love Wenger, he brings loads of money in without spending a lot and doesn't kick up a fuss if players have to be sold or can't be bought because they cost too much, if he sticks around quite frankly the future isn't very rosy, some will disagree but for me he just lacks that edge, for him winning is more about winning off the pitch financially than it is winning on the pitch and this is a terrible thing for a football club.
It's pretty sad that we're stuck with a manager who doesn't value winning that highly and that he may stick around to continue exerting his influence on a club he's deeply ingrained a losers mentality in.
The best thing for us would be for him to move on and and have nothing to do with the club anymore, instead it seems we're faced with potentially more years with him in charge.
His misplaced arrogance really bugs me to be honest, he loses and yet prances about like he's winning every season and is untouchable, pretty disgraceful, especially the way he almost gloats about how secure his position is.
There isn't another manager in football who achieves so little and yet is so handsomely rewarded and if offeed such job security.
This club use to be about aspiring to be the best and wanting to beat the best teams, now we're defined by qualifying for the CL by getting 3rd or 4th and getting into the last 16 of the CL, if that's Wenger's legacy it's quite sad.
i don't agree that he doesn't value winning that highly, he just won't accept that he's incapable of winning the major trophies and we have a board that don't care as long as he gets the bare minimum.
He gets too spiky at criticism because he gets it too infrequently and almost never at all from his employers.
All this points to the problem not being solved by Wenger going, it's not to say that he shouldn't go...but it's clear that he is only a part of the overall problem
Looking at the Kroenke situation with the Rams in the United States, it's clear he's the biggest problem we have at Arsenal long term.
But how can you conclude he values winning when he's unwilling to compromise? That's someone that has their priorities mixed up. His values trump the desire to win from the looks of things. He just won't accept that he needs to spend a lot more and adjust to win the league.
As for Silent Stan, we won't really know how much of problem he is until Wenger has gone or if a new contract is offered. So far we've managed to boost our revenue whilst he's been in charge and I don't mind him taking a back seat at the club. Someone too hands on or someone who thinks they know a bit about the game may try to impose on the manager too much. I don't have a serious problem with him to be honest. It's a joke that he doesn't invest and he takes money out of the club but similar to my views on the Director of Football, I have the same views on a ownership. I think Wenger's status at the club and seeing us through the stadium transition has kept him in good steed with higher ups. Now that we're out of transistion we'll see what happens next. I doubt they'll sack Wenger. Wish they would but because he's been here so long and what he's done, they'll allow him to write his own exit from the looks of things.
The problem is he isn't taking a back seat where it matters, there is even less pressure on Wenger than there otherwise would be because Kroenke regards him as inviolable.
I do think this is partly because when results are bad, Wenger is a useful lightning rod.
Wenger seems unwilling to compromise because he believes his way is best, which is both stubborn and arrogant however it doesn't negate the idea that he values winning especially as this is a man who does not seem to react well to losing. He is at his most haughty and entrenched when he has lost and you can tell it still bothers him.
Kroenke is a huge and seemingly insurmountable problem. He's found the magic formula in this sustainability bullshit model that everyone at the club stands behind. They are proud of this bullshit. Have a look at sustainability and see it for what it is. A method by which to milk a fan driven industry for every last penny without having to invest a single penny in return. Arsenal is set up perfectly for this, probably the most exploited club in world football today.
Kroenke and the sub-human Usmanov couldn't have written the terms better had they started with a sheet listing their wildest desires. An undervalued (in today's crazy market) club - check. An environment into which money is being poured regardless of performance (Villa get £100mill for being relegated) - check. A manager with complete belief in the project who views the club finances like a trust fund - check. A fan base used to thrift based on a stadium move that has provided asset value but precious little else - check. The unrealised sponsorship and marketing potential - check.
It's 0% risk for 100% reward. Everyone pays, the fans, the sponsors, the Premier League, Sky TV and the cost of attracting that revenue is fuck all. In fact it's less than fuck all, they could actually afford to kick money in but instead they sit on it and boast about bank balances so they can underwrite other projects elsewhere.
And there's no incentive for them to change a thing. Why would they. If they can hang on until 2019 then it gets even more lucrative as another of the club's assets can be pumped, our inclusion in the "big 5" which is a winning ticket to the Euro League jackpot.
Nobody in football has ever had it this easy.
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