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    Wenger after 2017

    I think we have all resigned ourselves to the fact that Wenger will still be the manager at the start of next season, however we have s**t stirrers like Piers Morgan who is trying to claim he has it on good authority that Wenger has already been given a new three year contract to sign.

    We know that Wenger did not sign his last contract until after the season had ended in 2014, and has hinted that winning the FA cup was a crucial factor in his decision to sign on.

    If we are in the same position next season failing to challenge for the title all the way till the end of the season, making no further progress in the champions league......do we think it possible that even if Wenger was offered a new contract that he'd be true to his word and refuse to sign it based on his assertion that he'd walk away when he felt he could take us no further?.

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    This is a case of the fans' definition of success being based on outcomes entirely different to the club's definition. If you look at Wenger's performance from the perspective of the owners then he's the best manager on the planet and delivers exceptional success year after year with unbreakable consistency. As they have said, he's irreplaceable. Meanwhile Wenger appears to be delusional. From his own words he is incapable of accepting or even realising what a massive failure this season constitutes. He apparently believes the team is very close to greatness and simply "unlucky" not to have achieved it already.

    Combine the undisguised greed of the owners with Wenger's mental deterioration and it seems a certainty he'll stay for as long as the board can tough it out in the face of rising resentment from a section of the fans. The club's anti-fan rhetoric has been ramped up considerably. There are still many fans, some influential, who buy it and prefer to beg for rather than demand a remedy to the major and growing problems at the club. Provided the fan base remains split Wenger can survive. Just look at the reaction to that banner. So many sickeningly obedient and compliant, complacent fools out there who won't hear a bad word about the rapists tearing their arseholes out.
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    Wenger will not leave except he is hounded out. His life and existence is entirely intertwined with this job, because he knows there is no other one like it out there for him. The saddest part is that in his mind he truly believes he is doing an excellent job. That no one else could do better with the same resources. He states "I am dedicated 100% to this job" as if that is all that is needed. You can dedicate your life to being a painter and still be thoroughly crap at it.
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    I think he will stay on for another contract and I think the board will agree to that. The board have no idea who could replace someone so ingrained and dominant in the whole current Arsenal set up. They will have looked at United and seen how much they have spent and what has happened to them over the last 3 years and if Wenger keeps getting CL football then how could you get rid of him from a board point of view as the money will still keep rolling on. With the new TV deal gate receipts don't make much difference now.

    The only way Wenger will ever leave is if he dies or we drop out of the CL places. And I think the first will be more likely as we always seem to pull a result out of the hat when absolutely desperate for one.

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    Whatever happens if new contract is on the table Wenger will sign it, as long as he's happy with his performance then everything is good, trouble is he thinks he's the best thing since sliced bread and is always happy with it, he sets the parameters.

    Wenger has said a lot of things over the years, many he's gone back on so you have to take his words with a pinch of salt when it comes to things like this.

    We may as well rename the club Arsenel, everything about it is about him anyway, I just can't see a scenario where he'll leave at the moment therefore we're going to be also rans for quite some time yet.
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    considering how annoyed/fed up we are now, if he stays for another contract, would we all still be here moaning (I would really fear for NQs sanity then!!! ) or would we have given up and walked away from watching games or even checking results? (I gave up my silver membership a couple of years back as it became too much money to spend on an average team)

    Personally, as bad as it gets, I will always be drawn to checking the scores, even though it doesnt get to me like it used to, but its dam well ingrained in me now, but in terms of money, they dont get any directly out of me anymore.

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    Haven't been to a game this season for the first time in a long time, and can't see myself going again until something changes. Just cannot justify the money on seeing the same mistakes being made and the blatant disregard by the club towards its fans.

    Really not sure how I would feel if Wenger were to get another contract. Don't think I'd cut my ties completely but would find it very hard to fully support the club.

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    It would kinda be worth it to see NQ and Zim's reactions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    It would kinda be worth it to see NQ and Zim's reactions.
    My position has been clear for a while now. I think Wenger should be gone immediately, for a host of obvious and long-standing reasons. However, I also understand he's arrogant and selfish enough to hang on as long as possible and while he continues to rob the fans and shovel the cash into the owners' pockets he can pretty much write his own ticket. The thing that has changed over the last year is the urgency to get both Kroenke and Usmanov out of the club in order to reclaim it as a football focused organisation. Short of the most aggressive and sustained campaign by the fans I can't see it happening. So my reaction to Wenger signing a new contract would be to yawn at something so obvious and inevitable. None of these people can last forever, eventually they will be gone one way or another.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    So my reaction to Wenger signing a new contract would be to yawn at something so obvious and inevitable. None of these people can last forever, eventually they will be gone one way or another.
    Pretty much my reaction too, I've accepted the fact he's got the easiest and most secure job with the least pressure in football and that he thinks he's doing a sterling job regardless of what actually happens, he sets his own criteria so it's easy to see how he always pats himself on the back as the end of the season....on that basis if he stays it's not unexpected, very tedious and dull yes (watching paint dry is significantly more interesting than him lets be honest) but not unexpected.

    So if he stays we just won't be competitive and will have to put up with his joke management for a bit longer at least (nothing new to us), nothing will change and there'll be nothing to be excited about, either in the summer or in the season.
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