Well it really is, we just couldn't compete not only on transfer fees but weekly wages too. Anything we were interested in, they could just come in and take what they wanted.Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
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Well it really is, we just couldn't compete not only on transfer fees but weekly wages too. Anything we were interested in, they could just come in and take what they wanted.
That bit just isn't true. We often blitzed teams early and then sat back, job done.
We were a much better team and had a strong captain but it's just not true that back in the day we gave 100% throughout every game.
As with anything, when it come to reminiscing about good times and success, you tend to look back with rose tinted glasses.
I didn't say we had to win titles, I said it's unforgivable how our football was transformed and allowed to stagnate. It was Wenger who imported dwarfs and turned to tippy, tappy. If we couldn't compete financially for the best players then why try to build Barcelona? Made no sense then and makes no sense now.
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So we couldn't compete with buying the top players, do you accept man city and Chelsea and Man U were more likely to win the league, we were still best of the rest with what was about. If we had bought some cloggers you would have moaned we were playing boring Stoke like football. The football was very good st times with Cesc, Nasri etc. He will never win in your eyes. He did the best with what was available. We finished where everyone expected us to.
Far from shite. Maybe you haven't paid attention to what former players have said about the culture around the dressing room but I won't go into a full explanation. It's something you'll have dig out from Google or something.
http://www.theguardian.com/football/...=ILCNETTXT3487
I'm not discounting Wenger's influence on the team but if you're saying the players don't look like they're giving their all, who can you blame for that? Wenger says the team have a strong mentality and we don't lack leaders. Would you agree with him? If not why not and what's the answer to solving it?"One of the gifts Arsène has got is that he's a lovely human being and I respect him a great deal. But I've got to get it real: coaching isn't his strong point. I love him dearly, he's a fantastic psychologist but he's not a great motivator. I'd just laugh at his attempts to gee us up – but I come from a different place, time and culture."
We were the fittest team in the league, in fact that's one of the key improvements Wenger introduced to the English game. We could outlast any domestic team over 90 minutes. I didn't claim we ran full pelt for 90 minutes (as you are misleadingly trying to suggest) I said we gave 100% and we did. We used to control games from start to finish. I remember it very well indeed, knowing for a fact we were going to win because we were faster, stronger, fitter and just better. That's why the 2006 final was such a shocker. The most un-Arsenal like performance imaginable. Everything we'd excelled at just gone. And then Wenger set about destroying the team with a purpose. He's never looked back and now we play some of the worst football in the league. The frustration being that every now and again we play some of the best football in the league. Which highlights the manager as the problem, not the lack of capability in the players.
I really can't understand how anyone can defend this man any longer. Are we or are we not 11 points behind Leicester City with the moneybags chavs and gypos already out of the running? This is failure on a level that cannot be excused under any circumstances and it's a failure that mirrors a decade of failure. The sad and pathetic and overpaid managers of the gypos and chavs will pay the price of failure. Rightly so. Our sad and pathetic overpaid flop will get to sail on as if nothing has happened. That cannot be defended. Neither can his failures be isolated to this one season as if we are witnessing an anomaly. Far from it.
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I don't think you are comprehending what I am saying. What I am NOT saying is we have some God given right to win the title and I expect delivery regardless of the environment. I'm saying we play shit football most of the time, with the standard getting progressively worse season after season. In fact now the financial restraints are off the football is worse than ever. This is what I find unacceptable. Not the fact we don't win the title every season, not the fact we can't buy the very best players. But when you look at the players we've had in the past and the players we have now it's only right the manager be criticised for the shit that is being served up - in return for the highest ticket prices in world football by the way. Scandalous.
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I blame the players themselves. How much motivation do you need, you are doing a job that many would give their all to do and are paid handsomely for doing it for one of europes best clubs.
As for Adams, great leader on the pitch, and would like to have someone like him in the squad now. But as for his opinions on being a good coach, I would take that with a pinch of salt tbh. He hardly went on to glorious things with being a coach himself.
Who in the league plays good football now though? Nobody really. It's more a game of attrition these last few seasons. When he tried to play Tika-taka, like Barca, albeit with much less quality of player, he was trying to play good exciting football, and win. It didn't work out and you didn't like that type of football either.
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