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    You think the pressure to finish top 4 is no pressure? Really? As I said, it doesn't give much scope for error.

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    Highly doubt he is under any real pressure. He has unwavering support from the board / owner regardless of results.

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    ps who gives a fuck about 4th. We have plenty of money in the bank and have been atrocious in the champions league for years now, it's nothing to be that proud about.

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    I can't understand why he hasn't set a standard for himself. When you earn legendary status at this level it shouldn't take an outsiders influence to drive you. His own ego and will to win should be pushing him along. Where is his pride? Where's the sporting ambition? It's why former players leave to go to other clubs. It would burn them up not to try and win all they can. I just don't get Wenger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gooner23 View Post
    ps who gives a fuck about 4th.
    And I quote "Top 4s Our Everything"





    And yes, that should not be the limit of our ambitions. But like it or not it has become important to many clubs and fans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    I can't understand why he hasn't set a standard for himself. When you earn legendary status at this level it shouldn't take an outsiders influence to drive you. His own ego and will to win should be pushing him along. Where is his pride? Where's the sporting ambition? It's why former players leave to go to other clubs. It would burn them up not to try and win all they can. I just don't get Wenger.
    I don't think it's a lack of drive or desire on his part, he gets pretty darn sulky when things aren't going our way.
    I don't think he's able to push us on further but I don't think it's because he's not interested in doing so.
    Regardless of pressure from the board, I think he puts himself under a lot of pressure.

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    Up until this season I agreed with the part about putting himself under pressure and hating to lose. But now I'm really not convinced, every season he handicaps himself by leaving areas of the squad short and every season he watches the same mistakes being made regardless who's on the pitch. If he cared that much about winning he'd do everything in his power to address that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    I don't think it's a lack of drive or desire on his part, he gets pretty darn sulky when things aren't going our way.
    I don't think he's able to push us on further but I don't think it's because he's not interested in doing so.
    Regardless of pressure from the board, I think he puts himself under a lot of pressure.
    Do we really know if the losses effect Wenger in the same way they used to? I can't really be sure because I don't see it. Also, it seems like the desire to save money overrides his desire to win the title. Going without signing an outfield player this summer is one example. Going so long without the Prem title and zero CL cups next to his name should be enough to drive him to spend and do what it takes to win the league. He doesn't have it in him and he's way to comfortable with the criticism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    Do we really know if the losses effect Wenger in the same way they used to? I can't really be sure because I don't see it. Also, it seems like the desire to save money overrides his desire to win the title. Going without signing an outfield player this summer is one example. Going so long without the Prem title and zero CL cups next to his name should be enough to drive him to spend and do what it takes to win the league. He doesn't have it in him and he's way to comfortable with the criticism.
    My only basis (apart from how damn sulky he looks and acts) is a David Dein interview where he said they still go out for dinner after every home game, unless we've lost in which case they don't as Wenger's no company at all when we've lost. So yeah, I think from that we can conclude he feels it. Whether he's able to do anything about it...well, it seems not. It'll be interesting to see what he does this summer. Maybe he will just go mental and spend big. Not holding my breath.

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    My take is that yes he probably does hate to lose during the game and immediately after. But bigger picture he will happily consign defeat to a distant memory and longer term it doesn't affect him as much as it probably should.

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