West Ham away (PL) Match Reaction Thread

[Globalgunner]

We dont need Kante TBF. We already have 2 decent DM in Coq and Elmo. If we want to bring someone else in he should be a powerhouse DM, not another small mobile type.
What wee need is another manager. Will Kante stop us dithering about the opponents box for 70 out of 90 mins, especially not when hes hooked off for Ramsey or Wilshere after 65mins...or is it 72

[selassie]

Guys, Kante has a £20m release clause!!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...chase-him.html

We won't be going near him, he's too obvious a signing for Wenger.

[Letters]

Please dont parade the FA cup as a sign of success for a club of our size and resources. Money definitely helps, but money in the right person would help even more. Sure, the FA cups helped and offered false promise to us but lets not pretend that its a major trophy. Portsmouth and Wigan have won 2 in the last 10 years, so.

You keep bringing that fact out of your arse as though that proves something. Leicester look like they'll win the league this year, does that devalue it?
The FA Cup is a cup competition so smaller sides winning it is more probable than in the league but those two instances are very much the exception, not the rule.

The FA Cup isn't what it was, I'll give you that. And there is no objective measure of what a 'major' trophy is but for those of us who were brought up in England it's still a fairly big deal (those on here disputing that were doing cartwheels 2 years ago when we won it, they're now rapidly back-peddling to suit their agenda) and worldwide it's recognised as probably the biggest domestic Cup competition.

A lot of my criticism of Wenger is hyperbole, if you compare it to all managers currently operating as a manager in football. It is not hyperbole when you compare him to other top managers with the resources he has at his disposal.

I think the point is he's only had those resources for a couple of years. Before that while I agree he could have spent more our finances were never at the same level as Chelsea, City or Utd. And while that doesn't absolve him of all blame, he should be judged by different criteria now we have the money to properly compete. This year is when I have finally snapped with him, the league was an open goal this year and we've messed it up. But I still don't think he deserves the level of abuse he's getting on here, it does seem out of proportion to how things have gone. Literally last year we finished 3rd and retained the FA Cup. This year we've failed to kick on and for that he should be sacked, but I don't think it warrants the level of vitriol I see from some.

[Niall_Quinn]

Good grief! Could everyone please take 2 minutes to post the following:

"Wenger is a top, top, top manager because he won the FA Cup which is a major trophy."

I think it will help. Thanks.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

It's an internet forum Letters, people don't conduct discourse the way they might in public.

I think what you are seeing people saying is that Wenger is making exactly the same mistakes regardless of whether he's had money or not, and that it is highly likely that even if we had been on a more equal footing with City, United and Chelsea financially that the results would not have been much better.

And when you see examples of managers who are able to produce more with modest economic spending power, whilst there is a correlation between spending and success it seems more that Wenger has been using it as an excuse to hide behind.

[Niall_Quinn]

Wenger is a top, top, top manager because he won the FA Cup which is a major trophy.

[Niall_Quinn]

Wenger is a top, top, top manager because he won the FA Cup which is a major trophy.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Are you having a personality breakdown?

[Niall_Quinn]

It's an internet forum Letters, people don't conduct discourse the way they might in public.

I think what you are seeing people saying is that Wenger is making exactly the same mistakes regardless of whether he's had money or not, and that it is highly likely that even if we had been on a more equal footing with City, United and Chelsea financially that the results would not have been much better.

And when you see examples of managers who are able to produce more with modest economic spending power, whilst there is a correlation between spending and success it seems more that Wenger has been using it as an excuse to hide behind.

I'm exactly the same in real life as on the Internet. It would be too complicated to keep track of things otherwise. When people ask me what I think about Wenger I say he's a stubborn old goat and a major fool who shoots himself in both feet every season. That's because it's true. We all KNOW it's true but not all of us want to ACCEPT it's true.

[Niall_Quinn]

Are you having a personality breakdown?

Not yet, but I don't rule it out.