Atletico are a team full of scrotes – I don’t mind having a few of those in the team to compete with the others in this league but not a full quota. What they are doing in Spain is amazing given the influence and resources they are up against in Barca and Madrid. It’s great seeing them upset those two prima donna teams but in reality, they are ugly and just as sly and dirty as Barca and Real.Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
It wouldn't have to be an exact replica anyway. As you say we have more money than Atleti and could probably attract better players, players who you'd hope would naturally gel into a perfect blend of defensive stubbornness and attacking flair.
Exactly if we want to model a side that punches above its weight it should be Borussia Dortmund not Atletico Madrid
I tend to think money is not the issue, for instance that little sociopath Mourinho has had plenty of money to spend and insists on his sides playing turgid football.
Be even more annoying to discover who we miss out on this year as Wenger digs his heels in and decides to honour his contract. The self sacrifice of the man brings a tear.
I'm with you. I care far less about the trophies than the style and effectiveness of the football we play. I watched the last match with SkyGo in one window, this forum in another and email open below, Spent most of the time on the forum and dealing with email. The match was unwatchable. Absolute shite. More of the same crap we've seen all season and getting worse as the seasons pass. If we were top now and on the way to a title I'd still be pissed because the football is so awful. I believe we're the most boring team in the league right now, us an Utd probably. If that can't be fixed then what's the point? Simeone's pressing game would be a significant upgrade in terms of entertainment, certainly in terms of effectiveness. Beggars can't be choosers and we are abject paupers when it comes to getting entertainment from the shit being shovelled up each week.
None of it is simple though. Depends on what Kroenke and the gang are prepared to accept. Will they tolerate a manager who wants to spend so we we can pursue trophies? Or are they after somebody who can come in and keep the books in order while keeping the expenses down to the absolute minimum, Wenger's speciality? I'm guessing the latter.
We're in quite a bit of shit when you look at the decision makers in the club.
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If it’s a case that we’ll be working with a very strict budget, who better than Simeone to take over? What Klopp did at Dortmund was impressive and I really like his style of football. But what Simeone is doing is really impressive. Dortmund only had one powerhouse team to deal in Bayern but having to fight off both Real Madrid and Barca…with that small team….it’s ridiculous and he’s managed to sustain that challenge so it’s no fluke.
The decision makers not knowing shit about football might help us in this situation. I can’t see them making a wild card decision and taking a punt on a little known manager like Dein did with Wenger. We can’t really afford to drop down the table and risk losing sponsorship deals.
I wouldnt put too much stock in Allegri because of what he achieved with Juve. that club is a machine and it rolls on regardless of who is at the helm. Even Wenger couldnt fk Juve up no matter how hard he tried, apart from the fact he wouldnt last 6 weeks there. Top of my head I couldnt name a favourite except Simeone, simply because the good ones are already taken while we stuck by the dinosaur. Maybe we should all pay a lot more attention to the Euros and see if anyone stands out. We all know the one who shalt not be named will be here next year to stink another season out.
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They aren't that bad, they are not as pretty on the eye as Barca or even Real but they can play a bit too, they have some very technical players like Oliver Torres, Koke, Saul Niguez, Griezmann etc. Simeone is just a very ruthless manager, he has a system in place that places winning above anything. He's the opposite of Wenger in some ways.
We missed the boat with Dortmund, Klopp was the guy that moulded them and he's at Liverpool now but IMO Simeone is limited by budget at Athletico with us he'd have more money to spend on better players and thus the result would be a resilient team with flair as well.
Dortmund have more individual ability than Athletico but Athletico have a better team, Dortmund's capitulation against Liverpool and their failure to make it through in the CL shows they're not as good a team as they once were.
Simeone has Dortmund fighting for all the big trophies every season against the very best sides, Dortmund's only real challenge were Bayern who they can't really compete with now.
For me Simeone is just the kind of manager we want, a guy who has a plan and makes his players perform that plan to perfection, who knows what he could achieve with better players.
He also gets the best out of forwards, Falco, Costa and Griezmann have all been prolific under him.
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