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    Don't think many would disagree with that Letters, but that doesn't make the criticism of Wenger any less merited. It's been done to death but the point is we absolutely need to make a change, regardless of how much of a gamble it might be, because it's crystal clear Wenger cannot take us any further as a club. In fact we are now going backwards again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    I think Bilic has over achieved with West Ham, where as considering the squad at his disposal i think Pellegrini has underachieved with City

    Well i say under achieved, he has achieved what he is capable of as a very average manager. I would also add a very average and old manager....two years younger than Wenger but makes him look youthful
    Still a huge gamble on a candidate that hasn't ever won a trophy. He might turn out to be a great manager but it's still a wild card. Agree about Pellegrini being old though. But in his day he did well with Villareal and Malaga and arguably had them punching above their weight. Similar to what your arguing with Bilic. With City he won the title but lost out to Chelsea the next season with Jose, so no shame in that. This season he's been undermined with the whole Pep fiasco and there may have been murmurs about him being moved on before the summer. No easy task dealing with that City team. He hasn't really had a chance to build his own squad and clear out the troublemakers so it's hard to judge. But I don't rate him that highly in all honesty. But it's just as much as a gamble on him as it is on Bilic if you ask me so not really a stupid suggestion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    All managers are flaws and one mistake I feel the I HOPE WENGER DIES PAINFULLY (may be a slight exaggeration) brigade make is to think that Wenger has all these flaws which he's suddenly developed and the next bloke won't have any.
    The truth is Wenger has always had these flaws, they were just masked in the past by his strengths which in the early days gave him a massive advantage over the rest. Others soon adapted and he no longer has that edge.
    And of course the next bloke will have flaws. Klopp spent most of last season battling relegation with Dortmund. Maureen pissed off people at Chelsea so much that he created such a toxic atmosphere that the reigning champions were in a relegation scrap till they got rid.
    They all have flaws and one problem I see is the situation at each club is different. Success at one club doesn't guarantee success at Arsenal, and I guess failure at another club doesn't guarantee failure at Arsenal.
    Out of sheer boredom of seeing the same each season, I think most wouldn't mind seeing something different even if it's a disaster. A gamble rather than playing it safe all day with Wenger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    All managers are flaws and one mistake I feel the I HOPE WENGER DIES PAINFULLY (may be a slight exaggeration) brigade make is to think that Wenger has all these flaws which he's suddenly developed and the next bloke won't have any.
    The truth is Wenger has always had these flaws, they were just masked in the past by his strengths which in the early days gave him a massive advantage over the rest. Others soon adapted and he no longer has that edge.
    And of course the next bloke will have flaws. Klopp spent most of last season battling relegation with Dortmund. Maureen pissed off people at Chelsea so much that he created such a toxic atmosphere that the reigning champions were in a relegation scrap till they got rid.
    They all have flaws and one problem I see is the situation at each club is different. Success at one club doesn't guarantee success at Arsenal, and I guess failure at another club doesn't guarantee failure at Arsenal.
    Yeah we know you want Wenger to stay.

    Sure all Managers have flaws, no denying that. One thing I would hope any new Manager would do is make a change, you know like actually try something different and not hope repeating the same thing over and over will yield different results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    Out of sheer boredom of seeing the same each season, I think most wouldn't mind seeing something different even if it's a disaster. A gamble rather than playing it safe all day with Wenger.
    This is true, at some point we have to take the plunge anyway. We are really stuck in a groundhog day at the moment and I think there is a general `meh` from fans and media also surrounding arsenal now. We dont even play good football now, there is nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    You put Bilic on your shortlist. That's probably a bigger gamble than Pellegrini.
    I'd have Bilic here, no problem. You can tell he's into the football, that's the number one priority for him and that's what we need. Certainly a gamble but he couldn't possibly be worse than Wenger tactically and it's hard to imagine he couldn't get more from the squad. Anyway, we get to see what he's made of for another season yet because the old goat won't be leaving until at least the end of next season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    All managers are flaws and one mistake I feel the I HOPE WENGER DIES PAINFULLY (may be a slight exaggeration) brigade make is to think that Wenger has all these flaws which he's suddenly developed and the next bloke won't have any.
    The truth is Wenger has always had these flaws, they were just masked in the past by his strengths which in the early days gave him a massive advantage over the rest. Others soon adapted and he no longer has that edge.
    And of course the next bloke will have flaws. Klopp spent most of last season battling relegation with Dortmund. Maureen pissed off people at Chelsea so much that he created such a toxic atmosphere that the reigning champions were in a relegation scrap till they got rid.
    They all have flaws and one problem I see is the situation at each club is different. Success at one club doesn't guarantee success at Arsenal, and I guess failure at another club doesn't guarantee failure at Arsenal.
    There is no I HOPE WENGER DIES PAINFULLY brigade. But there is a Wenger cocksucking brigade, as well you know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    All managers are flaws and one mistake I feel the I HOPE WENGER DIES PAINFULLY (may be a slight exaggeration) brigade make is to think that Wenger has all these flaws which he's suddenly developed and the next bloke won't have any.
    The truth is Wenger has always had these flaws, they were just masked in the past by his strengths which in the early days gave him a massive advantage over the rest. Others soon adapted and he no longer has that edge.
    And of course the next bloke will have flaws. Klopp spent most of last season battling relegation with Dortmund. Maureen pissed off people at Chelsea so much that he created such a toxic atmosphere that the reigning champions were in a relegation scrap till they got rid.
    They all have flaws and one problem I see is the situation at each club is different. Success at one club doesn't guarantee success at Arsenal, and I guess failure at another club doesn't guarantee failure at Arsenal.
    Slight exaggeration indeed, even Zim has admitted the voodoo dolls he made of Wenger are over the top

    All managers have flaws indeed, Wengers flaws are amplified by the total control he has over footballing decisions at the club to the point where he has made himself Unsackable because the only person in the board with even a scintilla of footballing knowledge is powerless to intervene.

    That's the problem with him even leaving aside that he's too old to go on a learning curve, he is largely only answerable to himself because of the autonomy he is given.

    No manager should be in that position, not even one who has won countless silverware recently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    But there is a Wenger cocksucking brigade, as well you know.
    Isn't Sonia Tatar the president of that ?

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    NOTE: The location of this post has been moved and the thread title (which was previously Wenger is Leaving) has been manipulated by a notorious pro-Wenger moderator. What was previously a message that contained no profanity and made a comment on a real life event has now been manipulated by a deliberately provocative title. An old and crude propaganda and censorship technique.


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