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[Power n Glory]

He pretty much intimated that he thought the fans reaction was an emotional one and that he looks at things coldly and logically, and he intimated that we were being fickle and we would be back soon enough.

His reaction was "well we can't stop them from not coming" when in fact he can, even if he still believes he's the man for the job he could say "I respect we have disappointed supporters this season, I can guarantee you whilst that was in no way intentional, that I will do what is in my power to win back their favour".

Instead of essentially "well they'll be back when they've finished throwing a strop"

http://www.skysports.com/watch/video...by-empty-seats

This is the video I watched, so where are you getting that from? You're worst than a tabloid paper!

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

I got that from his attitude and the way he made his point, and again I'm just saying that's the impression I got.

I think he is insulting people's intelligence by claiming people are staying away because it's a Thursday. It's remarks like that, that you have to think "where are you coming from?.

[Marc Overmars]

He said people are staying away because it's a Thursday?!

[adzzzbatch]

He said people are staying away because it's a Thursday?!

Well Thursday is my quiz night

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

It's my karaoke night

"PLEASE RESIGN WENGER, PLEASE JUST GO...FOR I DONT LOVE YOU ANYMORE!"

[Power n Glory]

I got that from his attitude and the way he made his point, and again I'm just saying that's the impression I got.

I think he is insulting people's intelligence by claiming people are staying away because it's a Thursday. It's remarks like that, that you have to think "where are you coming from?.

You’re trolling. I don’t know if anyone has watched the video but that’s not Wenger at his worse and it’s not something I’d read too much into. The soundbite you’ve picked out is the sort of thing a headline grabbing tabloid would do to try and whip up a frenzy. He also mentions it comes off the back of a defeat. I gather he mentions Thursday because it’s not a usual day for games to be played and off the back of a defeat it could have played a part. He agrees the unrest could be something more pronounced but he’s right to say it’s down to him and the team to turn that around. Is that him saying ‘fans are fickle’? I wouldn’t choose those words. I’d take this response from Wenger rather than him suggesting the atmosphere is effecting the players performances and ‘we need to stick together’ type response. It’s down to the players and him to turn that negativity around so I don’t have a problem with this response. I’ve seen worse. You're trolling.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Trolling would suggest that i am intentionally trying to wind people up

"Look everyone is free to do what he wants with his season ticket, we have to live with that"

"Yeah, maybe the disillusionment is more pronounced but we have to take that with distance as well"

"The emotional part in our game is always very high but changes very quickly"

That's not me trolling, that's me taking from this that his response to fans walking out is partly to blame the day (as if the fans wouldn't have turned out if we were still in the title hunt) and partly to shrug his shoulders and say "what you gonna do?"

Basically admitting that it is based on apathy due to the club's current form is not the same as acknowledging responsibility, the two quotes above suggest well this is an emotional reaction and people will soon get their emotions in check.....i'm not going to take it seriously because I take a distant, rational view of the situation.

Yes he does admit that it's down to him and the team to change those beliefs and judgement, but it still amounts to "well we will throw them a bit of red meat and they'll come back". It seems to me a very patronising and complacent response.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Am i perhaps reading too much into it?....there is always that danger, just the tone and choice of his words doesn't suggest to me a man particularly contrite or upset. Just a man forced merely to acknowledge that the fans are unhappy.
Do i expect him to justify everything he does?...No as i said earlier that question was ridiculous, but he knows that when talking to journalists he is indirectly addressing the fans and i do expect a bit more than begrudging acknowledgement by saying "yes they probably feel upset but that's emotion for you...."

[Power n Glory]

Yeah, I wouldn’t read too much into these particular comments. I don’t think he enjoys being grilled by the press but in this instances, I don’t think he’s being prickly, over defensive or sending a message to fans. I don’t think he’s been particularly selective about his words to suggest he’s being flippant or dismissive of the empty seats. I read a bit of Le Grove this morning and they have the same stance about the seating comments. I don’t see it. It’s just fanning the flames and there isn’t much to be getting upset about. Arseblog didn’t focus too much on it but I lean more on that side of this particular argument. I’m sure Wenger is aware of the unrest but he might as well quit now if he feels powerless to turn it around.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

I spoke to Le Grove about this, i think he focused more on the "Thursday" factor as a sign of him being delusional.

I said he knows precisely what he's saying, and i said i thought it was more of a case of him showing a lack of concern over it.

If we win tonight, and there is still the same absenteeism against Norwich then it will be interesting to see how he responds.

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