Match Reaction v West Brom (home) 15/16

[Kano]

Do you disagree?

Yes because it’s a stupid distortion of the truth by Wenger. People aren’t criticising just because Leicester are in front. They are criticising for watching the same season unfold yet again. And they are criticising because when all the other ‘big’ teams made it clear they weren’t in with a shout of the title and we stil were, we absolutely screwed it up. If we had been off the pace all season like Utd or Chelsea, or City to a degree, then we can lump ourselves into their category. But the reality is, we can't. We kept ourselves in the race until the usual point in the season when the increase in pressure becomes too much for Wenger and his players to handle.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

A point that has been made repeatedly along with many, many other damning criticisms and observations that together make it outrageous for Wenger to still be giving out excuses at this late stage of the shit show he planned and staged with such predictable precision. Now he gets another summer and another season and I'll bet you he makes all the same mistakes again.

I'm sick of this kind of cynicism, just because Wenger is getting in all his excuses in before the summer from tv money to brexit hampering his transfer plans and just because he gives the impression that he is unaware of what his team has done wrong.....and just because every time in the last ten years where we've challenged for the title we have fallen away in exactly same depressing way....doesn't mean he will make all the same mistakes again.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Solid points now he's calmed down from last time lol

He has calmed down has he...Ah i see.....so he is actually a prat and wasn't just overly emotional.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Do you disagree?

No he's quite right, it is for example also wholly unacceptable for the Manchester City's and Chelseas of this world

But when you look at the teams who are usually considered to be the usual suspects in the title race, there is going to be consequences for failure. Either massive transfer spending or change of manager.

Wenger is more secure in his position than the Queen and Robert Mugabe combined and he's already tried to hint there won't be massive changes.

[Özim]

Wenger says fans should return for quality football, our football is sh*t, he just doesn't have a clue, he's still living in 2003.

Asked for a message to fans, Wenger said: "Come and support the team. If you love football, you go out there and I think you see quality football."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36106478

[Özim]

Do you disagree?

Yes because every other big team is making changes, City have got Guardiola, Chelsea have Conte, Man U may well have a new manager and will no doubt spend and Liverpool will improve under Klopp and will make signings.

It just leaves us remaining stagnant and changing nothing. The other big clubs are not accepting coming behind Leicester, but we're happy to make excuses and to change next to nothing.

[Gooner23]

Yes because it’s a stupid distortion of the truth by Wenger. People aren’t criticising just because Leicester are in front. They are criticising for watching the same season unfold yet again. And they are criticising because when all the other ‘big’ teams made it clear they weren’t in with a shout of the title and we stil were, we absolutely screwed it up. If we had been off the pace all season like Utd or Chelsea, or City to a degree, then we can lump ourselves into their category. But the reality is, we can't. We kept ourselves in the race until the usual point in the season when the increase in pressure becomes too much for Wenger and his players to handle.

[Munchies]

Wenger says fans should return for quality football, our football is sh*t, he just doesn't have a clue, he's still living in 2003.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36106478

Saw the vid of it mentioned
https://twitter.com/afcufcfan/status/723216806316523520

Oh dear

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Yes because it’s a stupid distortion of the truth by Wenger. People aren’t criticising just because Leicester are in front. They are criticising for watching the same season unfold yet again. And they are criticising because when all the other ‘big’ teams made it clear they weren’t in with a shout of the title and we stil were, we absolutely screwed it up. If we had been off the pace all season like Utd or Chelsea, or City to a degree, then we can lump ourselves into their category. But the reality is, we can't. We kept ourselves in the race until the usual point in the season when the increase in pressure becomes too much for Wenger and his players to handle.

The only area where i don't agree with you is that i don't think it would have been any more acceptable had we fallen off the pace the same time chelsea and united did.
City in actual fact only fell out of the title race a few weeks before we did.
But i do agree broadly with what your saying, when city who would have still been the favourites up until February lost back to back games at home to Leicester and spurs fell away that should have been the green light for us to go full steam ahead, but we just clammed up.
Like we clammed up in 2008, Like we clammed up in 2011, Like we clammed up in 2014.

I do discuss this a lot with my Brother who whilst certainly isn't an AKB, he is of the opinion that Wenger should not be sacked and deserves the entire length of his contract to try and achieve something....because he feels the club owes it to Wenger for his consistency in a period where he has had nothing to spend and had to sell our best players (yeah fair to say i don't agree with him).
He believes if Wenger is unable to win the title next season his contract should not be renewed, but he believes managers aren't given enough time and Wenger can only be judged on his performances from 2014 onwards (again i disagree with him)

[Kano]

The only area where i don't agree with you is that i don't think it would have been any more acceptable had we fallen off the pace the same time chelsea and united did.
City in actual fact only fell out of the title race a few weeks before we did.
But i do agree broadly with what your saying, when city who would have still been the favourites up until February lost back to back games at home to Leicester and spurs fell away that should have been the green light for us to go full steam ahead, but we just clammed up.
Like we clammed up in 2008, Like we clammed up in 2011, Like we clammed up in 2014.

I don't think it would be acceptable in those circumstances either. To expand on my point further, what I meant is if we found ourselves in that scenario, then Wenger can lump us into the same group as Chelsea and Utd in terms of vastly underachieving by being so far behind Leicester. What Wenger is doing is making a top line statement to cover himself, when in fact when you dig underneath the facts expose his failings. I don't expect him to reveal his disappointments infront of the media, let alone a post-game match interview but he does not help how people view him with such defensive, see-through comments.

There has been discussion about when pressure applies to our game and of course there is pressure in every game a football team plays, no matter the level. This is a competitive sport and there is always something to play for, even if that just means pride. We overcome various 'tests' earlier in the season but there were still several, more intense to come, which we have failed miserably at again. Pressure increases the closer you get to a big achievement and while the FA Cup is one example based on a few games nearer to and including the final, the run-in to a title lasts longer and is a far sterner test of an ability to stand strong.