Match Reaction vs Sunderland (away)

[Niall_Quinn]

That Arseblog posts sums it up. No reason to get angry or excited or anything else. This season is such a write-off it's not worth the energy. Yes, Wenger picks the wrong teams, the wrong tactics, the wrong substitutions, if there's something to get wrong he's right there grasping the opportunity with both hands. Every time. So much so that the only surprise and Arsenal fan has in store is if Wenger gets something right. I'm not sure anyone cares if we finish 4th, beyond the top four obsessed manager and his friends upstairs. Next season will be the same. We can pretend all sorts of things, like we're going to do amazing things in the transfer window, or Wenger might be asked to leave, or the old man will change his ways, or that something, somewhere might be different. But that's all it is, pretending. See you all again next season for more of the same.

[Power n Glory]

Well it actually started with someone else saying that Sanchez was more important to retain than Ozil where as I think the exact opposite is true.

I personally think Sanchez is even more worthy of criticism, he can be totally anonymous in games and where as he was tracking back loads last season, he's not doing it as much this season.

I think Ozil is essential as no one else in our squad has his passing ability and ability to find a player with nothing, if he's dropped off that's one thing....though I think your concern about him not scoring enough goals seems rather small in the grand scheme of things when you consider our other far more pressing problems.

Sanchez has had his fair share of criticism but he’s coming back to playing well. Look at his contribution since the Man Utd game and compare that to Ozil’s. Who has been anonymous?

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/alexi.../spieler/40433

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/mesut.../0?saison=2015

Sanchez is probably the only underperforming player that has stepped his game up since that defeat. That’s character. As you can see from Ozil’s, he’s gone into a shell. But you wonder why I’m singling him out for criticism. We’ve had Theo, Giroud and Ramsey benched for a while now but his game hasn’t improved. Also, Sanchez has had a long season. He joined us after a World Cup, had Copa America after that and didn’t get a pre-season with us so was rushed back to play for us. His form dipped after coming back from injury but it seems like he’s coming back to his best.

[Özim]

That Arseblog posts sums it up. No reason to get angry or excited or anything else. This season is such a write-off it's not worth the energy. Yes, Wenger picks the wrong teams, the wrong tactics, the wrong substitutions, if there's something to get wrong he's right there grasping the opportunity with both hands. Every time. So much so that the only surprise and Arsenal fan has in store is if Wenger gets something right. I'm not sure anyone cares if we finish 4th, beyond the top four obsessed manager and his friends upstairs. Next season will be the same. We can pretend all sorts of things, like we're going to do amazing things in the transfer window, or Wenger might be asked to leave, or the old man will change his ways, or that something, somewhere might be different. But that's all it is, pretending. See you all again next season for more of the same.

Pretty much, he does so much wrong these days, 4th place is meaningless to most now.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Sanchez has had his fair share of criticism but he’s coming back to playing well. Look at his contribution since the Man Utd game and compare that to Ozil’s. Who has been anonymous?

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/alexi.../spieler/40433

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/mesut.../0?saison=2015

Sanchez is probably the only underperforming player that has stepped his game up since that defeat. That’s character. As you can see from Ozil’s, he’s gone into a shell. But you wonder why I’m singling him out for criticism. We’ve had Theo, Giroud and Ramsey benched for a while now but his game hasn’t improved. Also, Sanchez has had a long season. He joined us after a World Cup, had Copa America after that and didn’t get a pre-season with us so was rushed back to play for us. His form dipped after coming back from injury but it seems like he’s coming back to his best.

What am I meant to be looking at with these links?

[Power n Glory]

What am I meant to be looking at with these links?

Goals and assists over since we lost to Utd.

[Xhaka Can’t]

That Arseblog posts sums it up. No reason to get angry or excited or anything else. This season is such a write-off it's not worth the energy. Yes, Wenger picks the wrong teams, the wrong tactics, the wrong substitutions, if there's something to get wrong he's right there grasping the opportunity with both hands. Every time. So much so that the only surprise and Arsenal fan has in store is if Wenger gets something right. I'm not sure anyone cares if we finish 4th, beyond the top four obsessed manager and his friends upstairs. Next season will be the same. We can pretend all sorts of things, like we're going to do amazing things in the transfer window, or Wenger might be asked to leave, or the old man will change his ways, or that something, somewhere might be different. But that's all it is, pretending. See you all again next season for more of the same.

So you're telling me there's a chance!

[selassie]

Pretty much, he does so much wrong these days, 4th place is meaningless to most now.

Yep, Wenger is just too comfortable and the 4th place spot is basically his "get out of jail" card.

I honestly don't care where we finish this season, if dropping out of CL brings a change of approach or even a new manager (wishful thinking) then I'm all for it, honestly our seasons are so tiring, boring and predictable.

As NQ has already stated, we know how this summer will play out.

[Niall_Quinn]

So you're telling me there's a chance!

It's on!

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Well goals I ignored because if you are expecting Ozil to be scoring anywhere near the same amount of goals as Sanchez I think you are confused over what kind of player he is. Especially so considering you agreed with me some time ago that Sanchez was a good option to play up front.

Be interested to make the comparison between them over chances created

But fair enough if you want to want to make Ozil the focal point for criticism due to a lack of assists in the last nine games than up to you. I think his assist rate would be off the chart with a decent striker in front of him. I think criticism of him largely indicate attributes that are not part of his game, not every chance needs to be gilt edged if you have a striker mopping them up (although Giroud and Welbeck often miss gilt edged chances as well).
Our chances to goal ratio is probably one of the lowest in the league. I personally might have rested Ozil for a few games that we should be winning anyway (though of course Wenger has redefined should win games to should win but probably won't).

As for goals I am intensely relaxed by that side of his game, scored eight this season and if other players were doing their bit it wouldn't be an issue. But that goal tally is about par for Ozil, I don't think he got into double figures for Real Madrid just provided loads of goals for Ronaldo and Benzema.

Anyway we aren't going to agree on this, I just think by a country mile Ozil is the most gifted footballer in the team and therefore when someone says they wouldn't be that fussed if he went seems to confuse me greatly.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Yep, Wenger is just too comfortable and the 4th place spot is basically his "get out of jail" card.

I honestly don't care where we finish this season, if dropping out of CL brings a change of approach or even a new manager (wishful thinking) then I'm all for it, honestly our seasons are so tiring, boring and predictable.

As NQ has already stated, we know how this summer will play out.

So are his defenders, basically guy on Twitter argued that 4th place for 4th highest spending ability is about right and it is too much to expect anymore. Didn't seem to like that I inferred he was deferential and pliant to the wishes of the board and manager.