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    Quote Originally Posted by Kano View Post
    Yes this is exactly like a war.
    Yeah but what is it good for?
    If you don’t send this signature to ten people, you will become a Spurs fan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    What about next season? He's not leaving so we're stuck with him for at least another year. I'm already furious at the way we will chuck the 2016/17 season, collapsing at the key moment as always. What a bloody disgrace of a season that's going to be. Am I being premature?
    What about next season? If he's our manager then so be it, nothing I can do about it.
    I'll still follow the way things go, I don't watch many games, I haven't actually been for a couple of years, I don't see that changing.
    You are being premature but no-one will take us seriously as title contenders unless we're well clear and playing well in April.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Loblaw View Post
    Yeah but what is it good for?
    Lowering the Human population on this planet :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    Lowering the Human population on this planet :-)
    ...sing it again y'all!

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    This season, Wenger has single handedly cost us the title and that was back in the summer when he refused to sign a striker. A proper goal scorer would have won us the league season im sure but the manager decided to stick with Giroud, knowing full well that he was very limited in front of goal.

    He has a choice, go now and leave his legacy in decent shape or fuck about for a few more years and be driven out by the fans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Am I being premature?
    Thats what she said
    Arsene Wenger, the only football manager that got paid 8 million quid to do nothing but sit on his arse..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    I said "one more season" last year, I think he earned that - we retained the Cup beating Utd on the way and we were superb in the Cup Final (against a very poor side, admittedly, but still). There were a few reasons for cautious optimism.
    And because I was in the "one more season" camp it made sense to judge him at the end of the season, not the middle or even the beginning. Even as late as February we were in the title race so I think it was only fair to see how things panned out.
    And it's panned out to be a car crash, so #WengerOut. But I don't think it was so unreasonable to see how the season went.
    To be fair, even though I've not been very hot on him for a good while now I did think he should be given a fair crack of the whip this season after our end to last season and our cup final performance which I agree was superb. There were caveats to that for me, I thought if he had adequately strengthen the squad then we could push on, after Cech I was quite positive as I foolishly convinced myself he would add more quality to the squad.

    A lot of my enthusiasm and optimism was taken away once the window closed, I felt that we had given ourselves too much work to do. I did also say in the Wenger thread that we wouldn't win PL again under him, admittedly that was after the West Ham opening day defeat.

    To be fair to you Letters and we obviously have differing views on Wenger you have stuck by your word so I can't fault you for that.

    I'll admit I have/had lost faith in him quite a while ago and in some ways anything negative had the potential to turn me hence why I've been vocal in my "Wenger" out stance for pretty much the entire season.

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    I think we're all pretty much on the same page now. IMO some people over-criticise him and lost faith in him too early, others (and I am one, I guess) have been too patient.
    Whatever. I think we all agree he's not the man to push us on but I still don't think the extremes of abuse are warranted.
    And he will leave us in pretty good shape for whoever takes over which is more than can be said for a lot of managers who leave behind a train wreck.

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    I think the worry with fans who want him to go is they are concerned how much longer that will be the case

    If he was to go at the end of the season for example as long as top four had been secured, I think a lot of top young managers would look upon Arsenal as a mouth watering prospect a club with fantastic spending power, a large hungry fan base and a team that with some building could be fantastic.

    But consider if the worst happens and we don't finish in the top four, especially if he stays there is a real worry that we could get shut out for a long time because other clubs like Liverpool and Spurs have grown and we have someone who is stuck in the past and has too much power, even if he goes next season will someone really want to do the job and risk their own reputation.

    That's the kind of catch 22 we are in, as long as he delivers top four he keeps his job but it's also the necessary minimum for getting a decent replacement in.

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    When you look at 4th place now, we are as a club dependent on getting at least a point against man city as well as winning our other two games, or dependent on United dropping points.

    To be in that position now, shows the extent of Wengers mismanagement.

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