Match Reaction Gypos 2-2 Unambitious Skinflints - WENGER OUT!

[Niall_Quinn]

Idiots who fight because the don't agree with someone opinions, what sad little men seriously, not a brain cell between them.

Joke is, these arseholes who can't stand anyone having an opinion different to theirs reckon protest isn't "classy". But abusing anyone who wants to hold a banner up suggesting Wenger's time is up, physically threatening them, working hand in hand with Corporate Arsenal's goon squad to get protest banners confiscated - that's all real classy I guess. Pro-Wenger banners were not confiscated. Pro-Wenger drones were not threatened or abused. The fun and games of Claude and Ty going at it verbally, with everyone knowing it was a laugh, have been replaced by the sinister antics of these "loyal" Wengerbots who have brought a nasty turn to the proceedings - as predicted a few weeks back but I didn't think it would happen so fast. With the appearance of official goons I don't doubt these brown shirts and the club are working hand in hand, but in that unofficial capacity that is the signature of corporate entities that don't want to get their public image all muddy.

Underneath it all at the foundation, this is not about winning trophies or competing - a club of Arsenal's stature and reputation should be doing that by default, why are we even demanding what should be the very basis of our participation in a competitive sport? The real argument is about theft. The theft of a club by owners who couldn't give a shit about the club beyond how much value they can extract from it, a manger who is a bare faced liar and as big a thief as any, and way too many players who couldn't give a shit either, provided they are paid totally unreasonable amounts for their frankly limited skill set (or non-existent in the case of players like Walnut). The fans have finally grown tired of this theft, of being robbed. The Wengerdrones are the enforcers who don't seem to care how many times they take it up the hole provided their worship of the Wenger deity is not interrupted.

Next season is going to be positively poisonous. Can you imagine any other club putting up with this? Is there another club out there that doesn't give a flying fuck about the football? I can't think of one. We are unique - the ultimate Corporate bastard.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

What's going on with this club? It's really turning for the worst. Seeing police wrestle banners away from fans, fighting in the stands and that absolute prick on Arsenal Fan TV and I don't mean Tye and Claude..

I can't support this sort of shit. The manager and Board are an absolute disgrace. It goes beyond football and I'd love to see the lot of them ruined. It's just a shame it means the club goes with them. Absolute thieving scumbags.

The manager and board are responsible for pretty much everything going on at this club, but I don't see how they are responsible for atavistic behaviour between fans. It doesn't matter if they are Wenger in or Wenger Out if they can't express themselves without behaving like hominids whose responsibility is that other than the individuals themselves.
I appreciate that people had their banners taken away before going into the ground which seemed totally unnecessary but again I repeat if they cannot bear to hear chants or see signs that hold opposing views to their own without going into meltdown, the problem is them and not the club.

[Power n Glory]

I'm not trying to spark a nature vs nurture debate. We're on the wrong path as a club and that boils down to leadership at management and Board level. This sort of split between the fans may be felt for a long time.

[Kano]

The manager and board are responsible for pretty much everything going on at this club, but I don't see how they are responsible for atavistic behaviour between fans. It doesn't matter if they are Wenger in or Wenger Out if they can't express themselves without behaving like hominids whose responsibility is that other than the individuals themselves.
I appreciate that people had their banners taken away before going into the ground which seemed totally unnecessary but again I repeat if they cannot bear to hear chants or see signs that hold opposing views to their own without going into meltdown, the problem is them and not the club.

If grown men can't handle their own emotions then that comes down to them. It's a football club for Christ sake. The weakest always find someone else to justify their own failings.

[Gooner23]

Its all getting ridiculous, from internet warriors and wannabe social media z-listers to now actual fighting within the fans. Honestly I am embarrassed by it all, and just another reason for me to switch off completely next season. In fact I haven't really watched or followed any of our games since the United one, instead choosing to spend my weekends out doing other things. Have I missed it, not one bit.

I want Wenger to leave as much as anyone, but it really isn't worth getting that angry about.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

I'm not trying to spark a nature vs nurture debate. We're on the wrong path as a club and that boils down to leadership at management and Board level. This sort of split between the fans may be felt for a long time.

There is no need for any such debate, if fans can't behave themselves it's on them it's as simple as that.

[Kano]

Its all getting ridiculous, from internet warriors and wannabe social media z-listers to now actual fighting within the fans. Honestly I am embarrassed by it all, and just another reason for me to switch off completely next season. In fact I haven't really watched or followed any of our games since the United one, instead choosing to spend my weekends out doing other things. Have I missed it, not one bit.

I want Wenger to leave as much as anyone, but it really isn't worth getting that angry about.

This isn't just Arsenal culture. It's Internet culture in general, where the opposing person has be proven wrong, at all costs. It's no surprise this happens with the away fans as they are the hardcore section, who live and breathe it all week before the game, whereas the majority at home games do not. You've had Liverpool fans accused of robbing each other of tickets in the past, Everton fans accused of infighting this season - it's pretty pathetic to watch grown men get that worked up and then go home to their kids at night.

[Niall_Quinn]

It's not as pathetic as the alternative. Too many people around here involved in a maturity contest, without stopping to figure out what maturity is. Moh is leading the charge as usual.

Mature is great. Let's all do that. Let's be reasonable, let's talk about it, let's come to a compromise. Say what? You WON'T be reasonable, you DON'T want to discuss it? Thank you for my interest in your affairs? WTF? Hey fucker! Didn't I just pay your wages? Now listen up!

But this is increasingly the same in all walks of life. Pay to be abused, pay to have the piss taken out of you, suffer the greed of greedy cunts who aren't pretending to deliver any more.

From expense thieving politicians who promise right up until you fucking go and vote for the cunt... again

Through corporate rapists who corner the market and squeeeeeze, especially your wages if you are unfortunate enough to work (do the actual work) for the cunts. Hey, we're putting up our prices again because we lost a lot of fucking cash at the casino... but we'll be ringing you twice as much with marketing calls so now you're getting even more value!

All the way to Arsenal. The club the financial boys love to highlight as the ideal. Of course they do. We intimately know why, ouch.

So that's the world we live in. Those who make, those who take. Same as it ever was but just ten times more blatant and in your face. Now who was it that was talking about football as an escape? Not if you're an Arsenal fan. Being an Arsenal fan is like having the boss around on the weekend to shag your wife in front of you while you cook his steak and mix his drinks. Not the great escape by any means. Arsenal fans would probably pine for Monday were it not from the merciless teasing from opposition fans who laugh about the shit we eat, who can't believe how most of us are actually fucking proud of how badly we are being fucked. They chant, "We want you to stay...", when they see Wenger. Of course they do. They know a good thing when they see it and deluded Arsenal fans thinking they are on to a good thing with Wenger is music to every other fan in football, and sweet, sweet melody to the greedy cunts who have hijacked the club.

So anyway. We were talking about PATHETIC. Would it really be such a terrible thing to slap some of these zombie around the face? Are they capable of waking? Who knows after all these years, but maybe it's worth a try.

For the really mature crowd the answer seems to be okay, they robbed your club, they fucked you up the arse hard until you bled. Best thing you can do is skulk away. That's show them who's boss!

Brits are fucking pathetic. That's what's pathetic. Provided racial inclusiveness and gender equality is observed to the letter, rape them and rob them and they will fucking love you for it. They'll even stick up for you if one of your victims squeals. In chorus, "Oh do shut up, be mature about this, we're British for heaven's sake! WE fought a war!"

For myself, it's not worth supporting this shit show of a club any more. This isn't the thick and thin we are used to enjoying and enduring in equal measure - this is something entirely similar to all the other crap that surrounds us. Be loyal to that? Fuck off! I'll support the guys who have decided to stand up and politely suggest it is time for something other than subservience and apologies from the victims. Seems the least pathetic thing to do.

[Niall_Quinn]

If grown men can't handle their own emotions then that comes down to them. It's a football club for Christ sake. The weakest always find someone else to justify their own failings.

The weakest always say, thank you sir may I please have another? Look around you. They sing God save the queen at football matches FFS!

[Niall_Quinn]

Idiots who fight because the don't agree with someone opinions, what sad little men seriously, not a brain cell between them.

Scrapping with each other in the street while the well heeled are tutting from an upstairs window - I agree, that's as thick as you like. But walking up the stairs for a dust up, that's long overdue and the only smart play being left open to people.