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Thread: Summer Transfer Misery and Recriminations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kano View Post
    I’ve never seen Wenger have a go at single Arsenal player to the media in terms of criticising his play.

    As maddening as it was to keep seeing Bif upfront recently, given what has happened to Wellbeck, hindsight shows why he was being put into the team. We all know Theo wasn’t going to do anything upfront either.

    And yes I know about last summer etc etc but I’m just talking about the situation we are after those mistakes were made.

    I don’t think Giroud is the Golden Boy, I think he’ll find himself behind a new striker this summer.
    No I haven't either, he's quick to praise them even when they've been sh*t for months, praise should be given when deserved and most of the time the players don't deserve it, likewise criticism it should be given when deserved.

    Who knows, Wellbeck has been playing, on and off so it's hard to tell if that's the reason Giroud was playing or not, but even if he was, after going 15 games without a goal he should never be praised, his performances have been pathetic.

    I'm not sure I agree, he's always defending the guy and praising him, Wenger has his favourites and Giroud is up there I think.

    I'm not convinced, I'm even less convinced it'll be someone of quality, nothing is clear cut with Wenger, he should have signed someone last summer and didn't so what's to say he will this summer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thierrymon View Post
    We've been linked with Tommy Rogic from Celtic. I am a big fan of his and he even played at a club I used to play with (Belconnen United). Technically gifted despite his size and good at beating his marker. It is a big step up from Celtic to Arsenal though.
    He's another attacking midfielder, not convinced this is the kind of level we should be looking at, Celtic are an average team with on the whole average players.

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    Xhaka looks like a tidy player and a good passer, lots of ambition in his play. Elneny looked the same when he established himself. Wenger soon took care of that. Do we really see this player coming in and being allowed to spray passes all over the place like that? Or will Wenger correct his flaws and teach him the value of short, square and backwards passing so we can defend the all important 70% possession trophy? If Wenger wants him to play in a positive manner then that's a big step to transforming the dire shitheap of a style we seem locked into. But if the plan is to develop this kid in the same way as others have suffered then we've just wasted a whole bag of cash. You want to be positive with Wenger but they only thing you can really be positive about is he'll fuck it up.

    That's it then I suppose. No more discussion or debate, we knew the guy was staying but it's amazing how he has brushed off the backlash and walked on oblivious. He really is untouchable and now he probably gets to ruin another promising career. If we can't benefit big time from having Ozil and Alexis in the team then I'm can't see how much will change with this signing, unless it is the first of many this summer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    No I haven't either, he's quick to praise them even when they've been sh*t for months, praise should be given when deserved and most of the time the players don't deserve it, likewise criticism it should be given when deserved.

    Who knows, Wellbeck has been playing, on and off so it's hard to tell if that's the reason Giroud was playing or not, but even if he was, after going 15 games without a goal he should never be praised, his performances have been pathetic.

    I'm not sure I agree, he's always defending the guy and praising him, Wenger has his favourites and Giroud is up there I think.

    I'm not convinced, I'm even less convinced it'll be someone of quality, nothing is clear cut with Wenger, he should have signed someone last summer and didn't so what's to say he will this summer.
    In public, to the media about individual players, no it shouldn't. We don't need those scavengers making a field day out comments, which is probably why he always plays it like a politician in-front of the camera.

    He'll praise and defend his players in public, what he does behind the scenes, I've no idea. Giroud was dropped for Walcott earlier in the season, when he didn't have to be and for Wellbeck, before his knee probably starting playing up, so he isn't played regardless.

    This has been them most damaging season for Wenger in terms of goals scored and that is something he has always been able to produce, at a minimum. That is something he prides himself on and will have hurt him. I'm sure he sees that an upgrade and better options are needed, with Walcott likely to be released, Wellbeck out - players have to be bought.

    What he does with those players is a whole different ball game. I don't think he can do anything different with the squad, no matter who the personnel may be but I think we'll see someone else playing ahead of Giroud at least.

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    It sounds more like he's patting himself on the back with Giroud's selection.

    “Olivier Giroud was questioned recently and I’m happy I kept confidence in him because I thought he had a top-level performance,”
    He doesn't have to go that far and sound so smug when he hasn't been vindicated of anything. It's ok to praise his performance and say he had a good game after struggling. But he comes up with the above nonsense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    It sounds more like he's patting himself on the back with Giroud's selection.



    He doesn't have to go that far and sound so smug when he hasn't been vindicated of anything. It's ok to praise his performance and say he had a good game after struggling. But he comes up with the above nonsense.
    Wasn't a top level performance either, it was an okay performance with the striker doing what you would hope a half-decent striker would do. Which is what he is, a half-decent striker. If he's who we're taking into next season leading the line then wake me up when it's over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    It sounds more like he's patting himself on the back with Giroud's selection.



    He doesn't have to go that far and sound so smug when he hasn't been vindicated of anything. It's ok to praise his performance and say he had a good game after struggling. But he comes up with the above nonsense.
    Or he could have the decency to preface it with "this goes out to all the haters out there"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Douglas Reynholm View Post
    With Welbz already missing most of next season we will definitely be in for a striker.

    100% no doubt about it.
    I'm not so sure, honestly....Wenger has form for leaving us short in areas, i'm not saying he does it deliberately but I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he pulled the we have Giroud, Sanchez, Sanogo & Welbeck to come back type comment.

    He has had plenty of time to upgrade on Giroud, why suddenly now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by selassie View Post
    I'm not so sure, honestly....Wenger has form for leaving us short in areas, i'm not saying he does it deliberately but I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he pulled the we have Giroud, Sanchez, Sanogo & Welbeck to come back type comment.

    He has had plenty of time to upgrade on Giroud, why suddenly now?
    He's tried to upgrade him several times. I not interested in getting into the reasons it hasn't happened, but he's clearly identified the position.
    NOTE: The location of this post has been moved and the thread title (which was previously Wenger is Leaving) has been manipulated by a notorious pro-Wenger moderator. What was previously a message that contained no profanity and made a comment on a real life event has now been manipulated by a deliberately provocative title. An old and crude propaganda and censorship technique.


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    Well he should have no choice now except to go for a striker and I'd like to think that's priority number one

    Even if he foolishly wants to keep faith in Giroud, the guy is turning 30 in September. With Martinez about to get the sack and Everton way down the league this year we could get Lukakau if we really pushed for it but it'd require a figure around the 50 million mark.

    Just hope that even if we do sign him he doesn't get Wengerised in the year he's still certainly going to be left at the club.

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