Summer Transfer Misery and Recriminations.

[Özim]

Mourinho was not happy to let him go.

If Chelsea didn't want to let him go they wouldn't have, they did it as he wanted to go and because he'd been a long serving player they allowed him to.

[Özim]

Bit simplistic, we signed a midfielder in January because we had a clear shortage of them through injury and transfer procrastination.

You say people get burnt and then still choose to believe Wenger will do the right thing, it's not a matter of choice he's the manager whether we like it or not it's not about having faith in him implicitly. It's about there is nothing I can do but hope that he changes his mentality.

If you want to say Villarreal are a small club than presently so are Inter, if we can take a player from a side that is likely to finish in the champions league places in Spain, it's not inconceivable we could take from a Serie A team. It always depends on how much we want the player. I question how much Wenger actually wanted Higuain or Suarez judging by the fact that he didn't sign a goal scorer for another year.
I don't even mind if we went for this Dutch guy from AZ as long as it's because Wenger thinks he's something special rather than just getting a bargain.

He signed someone who didn't play for a while when he signed, I'm not sure he bought him out of necessity, more likely because he was cheapish and his kind of player.

I agree he's the manager, but let's not fool ourselves that we're going to see an influx of quality transfers, this is Wenger the guy who never fails to disappoint in the transfer market.

Inter have always been a big club, not so Villereal, they have more money for a start and are one of Italy's biggest clubs, Villarreal are a small club who have done well, they're not one of Spain's biggest or anywhere near.

I question Wenger all the time, I just think the guy is cheap and really doesn't want to buy expensive established players who cost money, he wants pet projects, preferably French speaking ones.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

If Chelsea didn't want to let him go they wouldn't have, they did it as he wanted to go and because he'd been a long serving player they allowed him to.

It wasn't as easy as that, you're re-writing history. Abrahmovich eventually decided to proceed with it but it's not like oh Cech wants to go? Bye then! Mourinho stood up for it not to happen, which does make it all the funnier.

[Kano]

He signed someone who didn't play for a while when he signed, I'm not sure he bought him out of necessity, more likely because he was cheapish and his kind of player.

I agree he's the manager, but let's not fool ourselves that we're going to see an influx of quality transfers, this is Wenger the guy who never fails to disappoint in the transfer market.

Inter have always been a big club, not so Villereal, they have more money for a start and are one of Italy's biggest clubs, Villarreal are a small club who have done well, they're not one of Spain's biggest or anywhere near.

I question Wenger all the time, I just think the guy is cheap and really doesn't want to buy expensive established players who cost money, he wants pet projects, preferably French speaking ones.

All comes down to how you want to view things as a supporter. How each fan wants to handle the current situation.

You can have some sense of hope without being deluded about the situation.

However if you can't stand the manager, the board, the players, the type of football we play and see nothing positive in the transfer windows at all, then you have to question what the point of following the team is at the moment.

It's an individual choice of course but there has to be a cut off point, otherwise it really is just supporting in misery for the sake of it.

[Özim]

It wasn't as easy as that, you're re-writing history. Abrahmovich eventually decided to proceed with it but it's not like oh Cech wants to go? Bye then! Mourinho stood up for it not to happen, which does make it all the funnier.

Let's not make this sound a harder signing than it was, Cech was number 2 that much was established, we didn't sign a clubs number 1 keeper so allowing him to leave is somewhat easier and it's always going to be easier to sign the number 2 keeper at a club.

Like I said if Chelsea didn't want to sell they needn't have, or they could have sold to a club abroad.

[mastermind84]

Sanchez done? What do you mean?

You could be right re: Jack sitting next to him, I'll be honest, I have no idea of what Wenger has planned going forward but the signing of Xhaka will significantly upgrade our midfield, from the little I've seen of him he looks a "star in the making".

Not sure whether there will be space for all 3 of Xhaka, Jack & Ramsey, not unless Ramsey is out on the flanks, that's assuming that Ozil stays.

I dont think Sanchez is coming back. I do not believe he is the best fit. He unbalances us.

All 3 CMs fit if we start going 4-3-3 or move Ramsey or Jack out wide. A 4-3-3 with Ozil on the right would be fine too.

I dont trust Wenger to figure it out though, but I do think our next manager will.

[mastermind84]

Xhaka looks like a tidy player and a good passer, lots of ambition in his play. Elneny looked the same when he established himself. Wenger soon took care of that. Do we really see this player coming in and being allowed to spray passes all over the place like that? Or will Wenger correct his flaws and teach him the value of short, square and backwards passing so we can defend the all important 70% possession trophy? If Wenger wants him to play in a positive manner then that's a big step to transforming the dire shitheap of a style we seem locked into. But if the plan is to develop this kid in the same way as others have suffered then we've just wasted a whole bag of cash. You want to be positive with Wenger but they only thing you can really be positive about is he'll fuck it up.

That's it then I suppose. No more discussion or debate, we knew the guy was staying but it's amazing how he has brushed off the backlash and walked on oblivious. He really is untouchable and now he probably gets to ruin another promising career. If we can't benefit big time from having Ozil and Alexis in the team then I'm can't see how much will change with this signing, unless it is the first of many this summer.

Elneny does not have Xhaka's passing range. Not even close.

Elneny keeps the game tidy but he not a progressive player at all.

The plaeyrs we have do not build in the first phase and do not have the ability to get it forward. Xhaka does.

[mastermind84]

Slim pickings out on the market. Not many obvious candidates and that's why I can't be certain he'll find anyone this summer. He's been reluctant to spend a huge amount on a young player. Dybala and Martial. But I don't see him going big on a striker like Higuain or Cavani. We'll see.

He did bid for Dybala. Bid as much as Juve did.

Dybala wanted to stay in Italy.

Martial, you serious? At the time, did you think it was a good idea to bid that much for him?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Let's not make this sound a harder signing than it was, Cech was number 2 that much was established, we didn't sign a clubs number 1 keeper so allowing him to leave is somewhat easier and it's always going to be easier to sign the number 2 keeper at a club.

Like I said if Chelsea didn't want to sell they needn't have, or they could have sold to a club abroad.

No they couldn't have sold to a club abroad because Cech wanted to stay in London and if they could have surely they would have? I'm sure it took at least a month and within that month a heavy dose of regular stories and sagas within.

[Power n Glory]

He did bid for Dybala. Bid as much as Juve did.

Dybala wanted to stay in Italy.

Martial, you serious? At the time, did you think it was a good idea to bid that much for him?

Of course I'm serious. Read the post again slowly and it might start to make sense.