Summer Transfer Misery and Recriminations.

[Toronto Gooner]

@honigstein
bit of a twist in the Xhaka story. official bid has now come in much lower than Gladbach expected after negotiations with 3rd parties.

https://twitter.com/honigstein/statu...rc=twsrc%5Etfw

Interestingly, if you read the Twitter feed, there is a question raised about a post by Honigstein on May 11th which states that Arsenal were going to pay the full amount (https://twitter.com/honigstein/status/733286121703149568?ref_src=twsrc^tfw). I suspect that there is a fair amount of "playacting" going on.

Is it a question of Xhaka or Kante, but not both? All we can be assured of is that we will never know exactly what goes on behind the scenes.

[Toronto Gooner]

It would seem that this alleged impasse is the result of an inactive buy-out clause. A tweet from Raphael Honigstein says "Xhaka has a release clause for €30m, by the way. But it only kicks in in 2017."

[selassie]

Max Eberl "There is an offer. With an offer in this range we cant talk seriously"

Classic Arsenal, watch this one drag on for a month until City or Chelsea swoop in and pay the market valuation.

[Munchies]

Interestingly, if you read the Twitter feed, there is a question raised about a post by Honigstein on May 11th which states that Arsenal were going to pay the full amount (https://twitter.com/honigstein/status/733286121703149568?ref_src=twsrc^tfw). I suspect that there is a fair amount of "playacting" going on.

Is it a question of Xhaka or Kante, but not both? All we can be assured of is that we will never know exactly what goes on behind the scenes.

It seems done!

[Toronto Gooner]

Classic Arsenal, watch this one drag on for a month until City or Chelsea swoop in and pay the market valuation.

I suppose the question is whether City and Chelsea have ever paid market valuation? This is not to excuse a deliberate low bid, if that is what happened, but using those two clubs as paragons of market valuation is not a good idea.

[Marc Overmars]

No such thing as market value anymore, Premier League clubs are swimming in cash and are bound to attract a higher premium.

[GP]

There's nothing wrong with negotiation.

I wouldn't put much stock in the words of people with their own self interest.

[Niall_Quinn]

The player better be shit hot if he's 30mill plus. You can get 60 Mahrez's for that!

[Toronto Gooner]

The player better be shit hot if he's 30mill plus. You can get 60 Mahrez's for that!

Sadly, Arsenal no longer have the luxury of buying a player like Mahrez for such a low fee. Disregarding the outpouring of anger and frustration from some fans, the club has a double premium on any transfer fee: 6th richest football club in the world and a EPL club.

[selassie]

I suppose the question is whether City and Chelsea have ever paid market valuation? This is not to excuse a deliberate low bid, if that is what happened, but using those two clubs as paragons of market valuation is not a good idea.

You have totally missed the point of my post but I will reply to what you are harping on about.

City and Chelsea have skewed the market to an extent, as have all the other Big European spenders, but the reality is they dictate the market prices to a degree, that's not to say we should follow suit and match them bid for bid but if we are in the market for a player who is a young semi-established international talent that captains his club side then we are going to have to pay a price.

The point of my post was more about us lowballing, if the selling clubs demands a fee, then we should negotiate from a realistic starting point if we want the player. We have form for lowballing and missing out on players hence why I posted the comment, in this instance it appears to be a hoax and the player appears to be close to joining us but in the past we have lost out on a fair few players through a combination of lowballing and dithering.