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    Quote Originally Posted by Munchies View Post
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    If or when we sign this Xhaka bloke, what does that mean for Ramsey and Cazorla ?

    Will Xhaka play as one of the two in a 4-2-3-1 alongside Elneny or Coquelin ?

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    I think Coq will take up Flamini's mantle of being the pubber who comes in once in a while to do a job.

    We'd have a plethora of central options though as the rest all seem interchangeable. Knowing our luck with injuries we'll never have to deal with the issue of them all being available anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    I think Coq will take up Flamini's mantle of being the pubber who comes in once in a while to do a job.

    We'd have a plethora of central options though as the rest all seem interchangeable. Knowing our luck with injuries we'll never have to deal with the issue of them all being available anyway.


    Yeah, it looks like the game (at the top level, at least) is moving past midfield 'specialists' now, and towards more rounded players, who are expected to be able to do a bit of everything. Which, on paper, probably sounds a lot like an old-school box-to-box midfielder, but I think there's probably far more emphasis on positional discipline / awareness and solid judgment in the modern role (e.g. you want them to have the ability to carry the ball out of defence, if it's safe to do so, but you don't want them trying to dribble out of trouble every single time, like Diaby used to). I still see an important place for terriers like Coquelin in a squad, but I see them more as tactical options now, rather than the first name on the team sheet, every game.

    Xhaka, Elneny and Wilshere (when he's fit) look like they fit the modern brief. Cazorla's maybe not so strong defensively, but his passing and control is that good that you'd always try and find a place for him (while he still has the legs). Ramsey has the raw attributes, but I just don't trust his judgment or awareness - for me, he has the mentality of an attacking player, not a central midfielder...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dostoy View Post
    If or when we sign this Xhaka bloke, what does that mean for Ramsey and Cazorla ?

    Will Xhaka play as one of the two in a 4-2-3-1 alongside Elneny or Coquelin ?
    I'd be tempted to use Ramsey as a completely different option to Özil behind the striker? More of a runner and goal-scorer than a play-maker, who might hassle and chase oppo defenders a bit more? In that kind of area of the field, I think his natural, marauding style would be an asset in certain games - in centre mid it's starting to feel like a liability.

    (And that doesn't always mean dropping or resting Özil - let's not forget he's more than capable of playing down the left or right himself.)

    Cazorla could be more direct cover / competition for Özil, as well as cover and competition for CM. Probably wouldn't be the worst idea in the world to lessen his workload a bit though - he'll be 32 in December, and has just done his cruciate, so his days of starting every game in the engine of the team are probably over...
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    Ramsey should be understudy to Ozil or back up wide right during (inevitable) injury crisis. With Xhaka, Elneny, Coq, Cazorla and Wilshere there is no place for him in centre mid to fuck things up.

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    Not sure why we can't go back to the system that was insanely successful in Wenger's earlier years. I don't believe any of this modern football bollocks. Seems to me like modern football is all about slow, plodding ball retention with its signature being a total inability or desire to cross a ball. Old Utd and Arsenal teams would rip the shit out of any team in world football today, they'd just have too much mobility, direct pace and raw power for the powder puff brigade. And raw talent, because that seems to be something else missing from the modern player, with a few notable exceptions. Leicester just proved that if you go back to playing football it works. The ballerina and pub outfits don't know how to handle real football.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gooner23 View Post
    Ramsey should be understudy to Ozil or back up wide right during (inevitable) injury crisis. With Xhaka, Elneny, Coq, Cazorla and Wilshere there is no place for him in centre mid to fuck things up.
    Ramsey isn't a 10, he a box to box and a great asset

    He should start as he is our best athlete in central mid. We should go with 3. Ramsey, Santi/Jack, Xhaka


    Özil could play head of a diamond or on the right in a 433

    We would have the best midfield in England by far
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    Quote Originally Posted by mastermind84 View Post
    Ramsey isn't a 10, he a box to box and a great asset

    He should start as he is our best athlete in central mid. We should go with 3. Ramsey, Santi/Jack, Xhaka


    Özil could play head of a diamond or on the right in a 433
    One flaw in that plan is there's nobody up top for these guys to work with. Nothing really works unless the manager wants to get serious about bringing a striker in.

    EDIT: A young Anelka would kill it with those players behind him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    I hope Kante stays at Leicester. Why wouldn't he? I don't get these players. Worshipped by the fans, PL title over the fire, everything balanced just perfectly, life is good. So where can I move to make more money. Horrible cunts basically.
    He has a release clause so if a club offers it there should be little complaint..........If Leicester don't want to let him go, then they don't have to........though I question the veracity of these things after the Suarez debacle....

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