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Thread: Arsenal AGM 3rd June 2016 - Gazidis "Wenger is going nowhere"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    So Wenger will be offered a new contract after another season where he hasn't delivered, he really does have a job whatever happens.
    No, he doesn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    I'd say we probably have the some of the most delusional fans in football.
    I actually agree with that...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    It's embarrassing that people are so attached to being 4th, a non achievement.
    We didn't finish 4th. Didn't last season either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    I saw easiest because there's no pressure for him to deliver from his bosses,
    Yes there is. He's still our manager because he's meeting his boss's targets. This really isn't rocket salad...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    This is my point they don't necessarily, if you want to believe the people singing one arsene wenger in the stands is representative of the majority of arsenal fans you can believe that if you like.....but one i don't think they are, and two i think there is a difference between wanting him gone and wanting him sacked.

    The thing to take away from that fixture is that we aren't a club whose fans want to protest, especially not during a game.

    But i think if you talk to enough Arsenal fans and ask them if they think Wenger is doing a good job and he should be allowed to stay as long as he wants, no i don't think you will find that a majority view at all.

    But you are also not in the majority of views, as you've expressed to me that you sometimes wonder if it would have been better if Wenger had never joined the club.....and you aren't going to find many Arsenal fans in accordance with that. And frankly i think that's more deluded than the unsubstantial charge you make against our fanbase.
    It does seem a large percentage want Wenger to stay judging from the stadium, one guy on AFTV acknowledged that and said the fans have said they want him to stay so that's that.

    The thing is he won't leave, even at the end of his contract so really the only choice is to stick with him or get rid, the former isn't a good option IMO.

    That view was based on more than half of his career where he hasn't (IMO) delivered on the field and more importantly has shown a real stubborness against doing what's needed (making lots of odd decisions in the process), I'll agree the 1st part of his careeer with us was sensational, but after failing so badly after that you have to question whether circumstances rather than managerial ability allowed him to achieve this sucess, by this I mean having the right players to begin with, having inside knowledge on French football which went through a peak around that time and inheriting/signing players who could make up for his defficiencies.

    As for the stadium, yes financially it's great (though we're not really using that to the maximum), Wenger gets a lot of credit for this, but in the end he didn't put his own money forward, others took the risk, he may have had the idea (though let's be honest the idea of building a bigger stadium when you're successful isn't exactly one that comes as a surprise).

    A top class manager isnt usually unable to reproduce some of the magc he did in over a decade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    No, he doesn't.
    It seems he does, after such a poor season they're still talking about another contract, wouldn't happen at any other club.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    We didn't finish 4th. Didn't last season either.
    Due to luck more than anything else, it wasn't because we earnt it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    Yes there is. He's still our manager because he's meeting his boss's targets. This really isn't rocket salad...
    No there isn't, his bosses targets are very low, so like I said there's no pressure, even if he ended up outside the CL spots he'd still keep his job.

    Easiest job in football, all the other managers would love to be in his shoes, getting paid handsomely for doing sooooo little.

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    Luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    I actually agree with that...
    Glad you acknowledge it at last

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