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    Quote Originally Posted by Gooner23 View Post
    According to Ornstein he's still weighing up the offers, has this all just been a ruse by his agent to get a bigger contract at Leicester?
    I doubt it, he only signed a new deal a few months ago. The clause was put in for a reason because he obviously knew there would be interest and an opportunity to further himself financially and increase his profile. Leicester probably can't/won't match our wages so it's really just down to what he fancies for himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    There were enough games where we failed to score or a goal here and there would have made a difference to suggest that a top striker in good form would have made a difference.
    As GP said, Wenger's here next year, if he's going to sign big to try and go out with a bang then great, there's no downside to that.
    Would've made a difference but how much we don't know and there were more than enough problems beyond that left unaddressed would have left us in the exact same boat. Given the state of our rivals last season the squad we had should've been enough to win the league but Wenger's management meant that isn't possible.

    Signing players isn't what will make the difference. Ranieri showed that. He played the way the players preferred to. Management of the players and squad are the defining factors and account for the energy, focus and dealing with pressure as it increases. Wenger isn't able to do that anymore. The players coming in are purely there for the next manager to benefit from, should Wenger leave.

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    We don't know how much difference, no. My feeling though is it would have won us the league. I may be wrong.

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    Kano speaks the truth.

    Perhaps a striker converting the chances would have made the difference. Who knows.

    It was a combined clusterfuck by our manager of all kinds of things which was the problem, so even if we had found a striker to take those chances, he'd play him out of position eventually, in favour of walking the ball into the net. What would Vardy do when faced with 10 men behind the ball?? Answer, is what happened when we played Leicester. We starved him of space in behind, and he became completely obsolete....which is what will happen if he signs for us.

    If we sign someone and start playing counter-attack powerball, it is absolutely nailed on we'll revert back to tippy-tappy come the end of the season. Happens every year....

    Pre-season last year, we were playing fast counter-attacking football....look at the end of the season.
    It's better to burn out, than to fade away.

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    How the hell could a striker converting the chances not have made a difference?!
    Before last season we were all saying we needed a top striker, now we're saying it wouldn't have made much difference anyway?

    EDIT: The poster boy for our problems was the Southampton at home, Ozil put chance after a chance on a plate, no-one was able to convert them. That's 2 points right there, if we had someone who would. There are plenty of other examples.

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    No we're saying it still probably wouldn't have won us the league because the once it became clear the other big teams weren't involved, this squad should've had enough to win. But we didn't even last the course in terms of challenging, that's why it comes down to more than one player. Giroud has more pedigree than Vardy early last season. But it was absolutely clear that despite having the best chance to challenge properly for the title, Wenger isn't up to. Better striker or not. Too many other problems all over the squad. You don't just look back at a scenario, drop someone in and it all works out how you retrospectively imagine it to. Lack of energy in games, terrible football, sloppy passing, stupid goals, Flamini starting for weeks on end. The list goes on. That isn't going to change next season either. Hopefully he leaves gracefully at the end of next season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    How the hell could a striker converting the chances not have made a difference?!
    Yeah this. Yes there were other problems in other areas of our squad namely not having a fucking replacement for Santi but with all our traditional rivals faltering just having a top striker would have been enough to see us over the line last year.

    There was a stat posted on here at the end of the season which said that had all shots which hit the woodwork counted as goals (applied throughout the league) we would have won the league. We create so many guilt edge chances every game and struggle to finish them; I'm sick and tired of it.

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    Liverpool had Suarez and Sturridge scoring for fun, over a hundred goals and still didn't win it. There's more to it than that.

    And given all the frustration around the manager and his set-up, it feels like a nonsense to sweep all of that away in the name of one type of player not being in the team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Emirates Gallactico View Post
    Yeah this. Yes there were other problems in other areas of our squad namely not having a fucking replacement for Santi but with all our traditional rivals faltering just having a top striker would have been enough to see us over the line last year.

    There was a stat posted on here at the end of the season which said that had all shots which hit the woodwork counted as goals (applied throughout the league) we would have won the league. We create so many guilt edge chances every game and struggle to finish them; I'm sick and tired of it.
    The stats are misleading. There are way too many games where it looks like we're struggling to just get a shot on target. We'd be waiting well into the first half or even 2nd just to test their keeper. There aren't many games where we're missing sitter after sitter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kano View Post
    No we're saying it still probably wouldn't have won us the league because the once it became clear the other big teams weren't involved, this squad should've had enough to win. But we didn't even last the course in terms of challenging, that's why it comes down to more than one player. Giroud has more pedigree than Vardy early last season. But it was absolutely clear that despite having the best chance to challenge properly for the title, Wenger isn't up to. Better striker or not. Too many other problems all over the squad. You don't just look back at a scenario, drop someone in and it all works out how you retrospectively imagine it to. Lack of energy in games, terrible football, sloppy passing, stupid goals, Flamini starting for weeks on end. The list goes on. That isn't going to change next season either. Hopefully he leaves gracefully at the end of next season.
    And you didn't even mention injuries.

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