Suddenly, Aubameyang to City is more likely than Vardy to us!
Suddenly, Aubameyang to City is more likely than Vardy to us!
And imagine after all this Jansen signs for Spurs!!
For only £12m too!Originally Posted by Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
At that price it's a no brainer, he may or may not come off, but if he doest he'll be worth 5 times that,we never seem to be interested in goalscorers like this, instead we go after an ageing forward with a poor goal record before last season who appears to be mugging us off, by not wanting to think about it till after the Euros.
He should do one, clearly he's not that interested in coming, so we should move on and find someone who is (and who's better).
Last edited by Özim; 07-06-2016 at 11:35 PM.
We should be in for players like this, if we'd been clever we'd have gone in for him early instead of sitting on our arses, invariably we always miss out. Not saying we would get him as let's face it we not that attractive an option, but if we tried early we could have a chance of nicking players under the bigger clubs noses.
Anyway City with Aguero and this guy, we can kiss goodbye to any success with the influx of new top managers and invariably top signings, we'll get left behind and achieve nothing as usual.
Gazidis and co talk a good game but Vardy and Xhaka aren't exactly premium signings despite the price, I'd be more content if we at leat signed a forward with potential.
I don't share your views on Vardy but I do think we shouldn't be mugged off. Move the hell on and line up the next target? I assume we cannot rate young Janssen if we're just going to watch the shadow dwellers sign him.
He hasn't got a poor record before last season. Leicester plucked him from the non-league because he had a fantastic scoring record at that level - 58 goals in 73 games.
He struggled in his first year in the Championship as he adjusted to the new level but the following season he did OK - not setting the world alight but he got 16 goals in the league.
The same pattern happened in the Premier League, struggled in his first season, did very well last year.
The fact is we don't know how he'll do in the next few years, he's not got a long history of scoring goals at the top level simply because he's not been at the top level for long enough, but he has scored a reasonable number of goals at every level he's played at.
It's rare for a player to make it so late in his career so he's a bit of an unknown quality, I doubt he'll have another season quite that good again but he is a goal scorer and we could do with one. But yes, if he's going to dick around then he can do one, there are players out there with a longer, proven track record who would probably be more expensive but are less of a gamble.
Well yes he has, with all due respect non league is a very low level so that doesn't count for much, he's had 4 seasons with Leicester 2 in the championship (again a lower level) and his goal return has been:
Season Games Goals
2012-2013 29 5
2013-2014 41 16
2014-2015 36 5
2015-2016 38 24
That's a poor record in my book, the championship isnt that great and his best season was 16 goals in 41 games, not great. Last season was his only season of note which to me doesn't fill me with confidence.
We don't know but at 29 with his record the odds are against him IMO, based on his record at a higher level his record is average at best and even if you buy the period of adjustment comment for a new league/club you made then it suggest he'll get 5 goals for us next season or thereabouts next season, not good enough.
Players who have one good season are nothing new, it happens quite often so basing a signing on one season is very risky, especially at his age with no room to improve, I just think he's the wrong signing for all kinds of reasons and now he's stringing us along as well which is embarrassing, I can put up with that if it's a truly world class player with the world at his feet and plenty of options but not when it's a journeyman with one good season behind him.
Last edited by Özim; 08-06-2016 at 07:28 AM.
You're entitled to your opinion, but we agree we should move on (I suspect we won't, we tend to let these things drag on). As for Janssen, Spurs don't even need him they already have a guy scoring a hatful up front, for 12 million though it's woth a punt, that's nothing in today's market, if he scores a hatful he'll be worth a fortune if not it's just 12 million, we'd probably get some of that back, plus at 21 he's got lots of time ahead of him.
Non-league is low level but he scored enough goals to bring him to Leicester's attention and yes, his record at Leicester is as you say. He has had 2 seasons in the Championship and 2 in the Premier League.
In both pairs he struggled in his first season and did better in his second as he got used to the new level.
I do think last year was probably his best ever year, I doubt he'll top it, but over his whole career he's scored goals.
You wouldn't expect a player from the non-league to come straight into the top leagues and be scoring at the same rate but his speed of improvement gives signs for hope that he'll get a reasonable number of goals over the next few years.
His record is scoring goals at every level he's played at, including international level recently. If you look at the record of any striker playing at a new level - usually this would be at a young age - then there will generally be some poor seasons and then improvement, that's what we see with Vardy.
And the period of adjustment argument doesn't meant he'll get 5 goals for us, what kind of reasoning is that? I didn't say anything about a new club, it was a step up in level. We are in the same league as Leicester.
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