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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    No he didn't but there was nothing exciting about the signing, there's plenty of players who have scored goals in one season and never really reproduced any near as many, Adebayor, David White, Phillips (as you mentioned), Ramsey, Michu Andy Johnson, Roque Santa Cruz, Vardy is only 2nd scorer in the league as he played for the team that won the title which makes a difference.

    I think Eduardo's finishing was very good for us before his injury (felt we should have signed Huntelaar personally at the time, another error there, but that's Wenger for you).

    Vardy isn't a safe bet at all due to his record, a safer bet than Janssen.....who knows Janssen could turn out to be like RVN at least he has potential, to have socred that many at 21 bodes well, both a gamble but one is younger and can improve, the other won't and is prime candidate to be a one season hit.
    Of course but it works the other way round too. Leicester won the league in large part because of Vardy's goals, he was integral to that. All of those guys you listed above got in and around the same level of league goals that Giroud has in his Arsenal career, so nothing like Vardy. The only real comparable one is Adebayor for one season and I think we can look at the two players attitude on the pitch and see the difference immediately. Adebayor has never been wanting for ability, but his big-headed approach and greed ruined his career. Vardy plays one way and I don't think either of us can see that changing. For me it all comes down to if he can fit into our style or if Wenger is trying to change how we play.

    What I said is Vardy is a safer bet, not a safe bet. We are comparing the two strikers and the risk is higher with Janssen, you can agree to that. As I said, buying both would be ideal given how cheap the Dutch kid appears to be but I don't see it as a disaster with we miss out on a gamble. We've spent long enough punting on young unknowns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kano View Post
    Of course but it works the other way round too. Leicester won the league in large part because of Vardy's goals, he was integral to that. All of those guys you listed above got in and around the same level of league goals that Giroud has in his Arsenal career, so nothing like Vardy. The only real comparable one is Adebayor for one season and I think we can look at the two players attitude on the pitch and see the difference immediately. Adebayor has never been wanting for ability, but his big-headed approach and greed ruined his career. Vardy plays one way and I don't think either of us can see that changing. For me it all comes down to if he can fit into our style or if Wenger is trying to change how we play.

    What I said is Vardy is a safer bet, not a safe bet. We are comparing the two strikers and the risk is higher with Janssen, you can agree to that. As I said, buying both would be ideal given how cheap the Dutch kid appears to be but I don't see it as a disaster with we miss out on a gamble. We've spent long enough punting on young unknowns.
    Yes they did, but if you play for a team that wins the league and you have a good season yourself (maybe your best season, likely at his age, peak age for footballers) you're likely to score more goals than someone playing for a team who come 7th. Johson scored 21 in37 games for Palace in the league (not far of for a team who didn't come near winning the league) so very comparable, the fact his team won the league would mean Vardy would in all likelyness get more. Yes Adebayor's temperament was questionnable, but he had more talent than Vardy, in addition I think all were younger than Vardy and not at their peak.

    Is he a safer bet, possibly it's hard to gauge though, the only thing he has going for him is that he's played in the PL, but then he played in the PL the season before as well and only got 5 goals so.

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    We could spend all day bringing up this and that but I think the bottom line is that a bid for Vardy is on the table and Janssen is likely to go to Spurs, so we have to hope that any reservations we have are proved wrong if he turns up at our club. And if he doesn't, that the club aren't just relying on this one striker as a possible solution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    No he didn't but there was nothing exciting about the signing, there's plenty of players who have scored goals in one season and never really reproduced any near as many, Adebayor, David White, Phillips (as you mentioned), Ramsey, Michu, Andy Johnson, Roque Santa Cruz, Vardy is only 2nd scorer in the league as he played for the team that won the title which makes a difference.

    I think Eduardo's finishing was very good for us before his injury (felt we should have signed Huntelaar personally at the time, another error there, but that's Wenger for you).

    Vardy isn't a safe bet at all due to his record, a safer bet than Janssen.....who knows Janssen could turn out to be like RVN at least he has potential, to have scored that many at 21 bodes well, both a gamble but one is younger and can improve, the other won't and is prime candidate to be a one season hit.

    I just don't trust this signing, plus Pochettino has a decent record of discovering players and he's trying to sign Janssen which bodes well.
    Eduardo knew how to finish. Intelligent in the box and I get that sort of vibe from watching Janssen's finishing.

    Eduardo didn't play that much for us before his leg break. Was restricted to a lot of odd league games and was played on the wing wasn't he? Only until after Christmas did he get a run in the team. He was scoring in the cup games when he started but in the league he never started back to back games until after Christmas and then we made a differnce scoring goals and making assists. I think he only ever started 19 games in total all season but scored in 12 goals with 9 assists. Not bad at all.

    Smart finisher. It's shame what happened to him. In Janssen, I see similar traits of a smart finisher. Plus he's both footed. Not sure why we're not moving for him and why we're not discovering strikers anymore.

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    Anyone heard anymore about Mkhitaryian, don't really care about Vardy it's unlikely we are going to hear anymore about that until 11th July now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    Anyone heard anymore about Mkhitaryian, don't really care about Vardy it's unlikely we are going to hear anymore about that until 11th July now.
    All we know is that Dortmund are looking to sell.

    Some sources say we've got a bid in but no more than that.

    I'd love him here, though.
    NOTE: The location of this post has been moved and the thread title (which was previously Wenger is Leaving) has been manipulated by a notorious pro-Wenger moderator. What was previously a message that contained no profanity and made a comment on a real life event has now been manipulated by a deliberately provocative title. An old and crude propaganda and censorship technique.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    Anyone heard anymore about Mkhitaryian, don't really care about Vardy it's unlikely we are going to hear anymore about that until 11th July now.
    This would be a good signing, however several other clubs are interested apparently Chelsea, Spurs and Liverpool so if we don't get a move on we could end up missing out.

    Really with 1 year left on his contract we should be able to snap him up, can't imagine Dortmund would let him leave for free next season, only issue for us is if Spurs and Chelsea come in for him, might be a struggle to convince him to come then.

    This on is believable is that he's going cheap and we know how much Wenger loves a bargain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    Anyone heard anymore about Mkhitaryian, don't really care about Vardy it's unlikely we are going to hear anymore about that until 11th July now.
    Not to worry Ingurlund will be back home very soon, two weeks in fact
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    Guys, I think I know why the deal has stalled...

    There's a Jamie Vardy lookalike out there!

    He's even a postman! Seriously, what are we waiting for?
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    We've already got a postman.
    NOTE: The location of this post has been moved and the thread title (which was previously Wenger is Leaving) has been manipulated by a notorious pro-Wenger moderator. What was previously a message that contained no profanity and made a comment on a real life event has now been manipulated by a deliberately provocative title. An old and crude propaganda and censorship technique.


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