Summer Transfer Misery and Recriminations.

[Power n Glory]

Higuain won't but Vardy will? Higuain is a natural goal scorer and all about banging in goals. Why would he fail but Vardy succeed?

[Niall_Quinn]

Because Higuain is more technical and Wenger would be able to work his unique magic on him, just as he's done with Ozil and Alexis. Wenger could integrate a player like Higuain into that unspeakable system he prefers. In no time we'd see him tapping the ball around in front of the opposition box, taking that extra touch, focusing on possession rather than finding the net.

Watching Woy's ludicrous efforts so far is very similar. Kane's not a bad player, but what the hell has Woy been instructing him to do?

[Power n Glory]

Because Higuain is more technical and Wenger would be able to work his unique magic on him, just as he's done with Ozil and Alexis. Wenger could integrate a player like Higuain into that unspeakable system he prefers. In no time we'd see him tapping the ball around in front of the opposition box, taking that extra touch, focusing on possession rather than finding the net.

Watching Woy's ludicrous efforts so far is very similar. Kane's not a bad player, but what the hell has Woy been instructing him to do?

Higuain is a goal scorer. Technical but I don't think he'd be satisfied with not scoring. I wouldn't put Alexis down as a player that has allowed Wenger to coach the good out of him either. He still pushes for goals and to make something happen. Higuain has standards and comes with a rep for banging in goals. We need some that can play our system but add goals. We can't have someone so out of sync with the team he's isolated.

Also, Vardy comes from a small team. It's the first time he'll have the spotlight on him and have to deal with pressure. You can't be sure he'll respond to it well and not get star struck.

[Niall_Quinn]

Higuain is a goal scorer. Technical but I don't think he'd be satisfied with not scoring. I wouldn't put Alexis down as a player that has allowed Wenger to coach the good out of him either. He still pushes for goals and to make something happen. Higuain has standards and comes with a rep for banging in goals. We need some that can play our system but add goals. We can't have someone so out of sync with the team he's isolated.

Also, Vardy comes from a small team. It's the first time he'll have the spotlight on him and have to deal with pressure. You can't be sure he'll respond to it well and not get star struck.

Well, we have 1,001 example of the Wenger Way. A catalogue of ruined players or players who had to go elsewhere to win things. The last time we won anything of significance was when we were playing a system that's almost the exact opposite of the system (can you even call it a system) we are playing now. If we have to put up with Wenger and his bullshit, and we do, then at least bring in some players who will be able to provide something a little different. That's most certainly not the guy we have signed so far, Xhaka. He looks an excellent player and he looks ideally suited to our system. Frighteningly suited in fact. If Wenger could build the perfect player from scratch he'd build Xhaka. And Xhaka will make precisely zero difference to our fortunes. None whatsoever, for the very reason he suits our ineffective system so perfectly. Not his fault, it's Wenger's fault.

And you're right, players do get pissed at not being able to deliver. Alexis is pissed off, Ozil is pissed off. We've heard both of them express their doubts in public. They aren't at the stage of open revolution yet but we've seen this before. If Wenger persists with his nothingball then these two will go elsewhere to play football. Who could blame them?

Leicester a small team? Hardly. They may not be one of the Big 5 Flops but they're champions now and you don't do that by accident or by being a minor operation from the backwaters of English football. They're big enough, they have resources enough and they have something far more important - a plan that relates to football on the pitch. Vardy was at the heart of that. He'll be the one bringing experience of actually winning something. We're the ones who have to match that and prove we're serious about winning. Vardy didn't look star struck when he came on to bail Woy out. He'll do fine, I wouldn't worry about it.

[Toronto Gooner]

Personally, I believe that Sanchez's problem is more to do with the fact that he has played a big summer tournament for each of the last three years, in addition to playing over 40 matches for his club team in each of the last 5 seasons.

[Kano]

Personally, I believe that Sanchez's problem is more to do with the fact that he has played a big summer tournament for each of the last three years, in addition to playing over 40 matches for his club team in each of the last 5 seasons.

I'm not sure, that momentum is something that seems to work for, rather than against him. It seemed to be once he was forced to take time out last season with injury, he really struggled to get back into the groove. Previously his schedule had been non-stop yet had little or no effect on his output. There aren't many players with the energy and work rate of Alexis, so I think he has to be thought about and managed differently too.

Cue hamstring pull in the next game...

[Özim]

We've signed top players. Ozil, Alexis. They haven't made the difference. Not because there's something wrong with them, not because they have failed, but because of the terrible system our manager insists on playing, because of the unbalanced teams he selects, the other crazy decisions he makes and the mistakes he keeps repeating over and over. Wenger costs us a serious title challenge each and every season, either with his antics during the transfer window or the season itself.

What we need is a player that will succeed despite Wenger. Somebody who will just bang in the goals without paying too much attention to triangles and broccoli consumption times the square root of each backward pass. Vardy wouldn't pay attention to any of that shit. He's a natural goalscorer. He'd find himself in the position to score goals no matter how Wenger tried to fuck it up. Just as he found himself in the box to score yesterday for that pub team rabble run by that other fool who gets paid to be incompetent. Vardy will shake up our system, players like Higuain won't. There are no subtleties with Vardy, there's the goal, over there, bang, chalk up another one. It's not hard to figure out his game because it's basic, but nobody can stop him. Wenger won't be able to teach him Wengerball, Vardy is incapable of playing that. Players like Morata would be sucked into that bottomless chasm in no time flat.

I was saying all season, Vardy is the best striker in the league. Maybe not the most gifted, but the best. We've needed a player like him for an age. Even if we only get one season out of him, signing him would break this rinse and repeat cycle. That's the best analogy, our football is like watching a washing machine cleaning clothes. Same thing over and over. What will happen next? Oh look, it went around again. Now what? Wow, around it went. And again, and again. Wenger loves it. 99% possession. Something needs to be thrown into that cycle to break it and at £20mill Vardy represents a real bang for the bucks.

Must get.

I don't get your love for Vardy to be honest, it's not like he's scored goals his whole career, Leicester have just had an exceptional season and he's scored a decent amount of goals, that's not unexpected, but at the end of the day he's 29, would be moving to a new club and before last season really his record was very average, it's not like he's been consistently scoring and this includes a lower level to the PL.

It's very feasible that next season the goals will dry up for him.

As for him not being able to be influenced by Wenger, the manager makes all the decisions and if you don't play like he wants you to he'll drop you, if Vardy comes (and he doesn't seem keen, another reason not to sign him) like every other player he'll bend over backward to please his new dad because they all do.

We all know the manager is the problem, but i'd prefer someone who's top class and has scored goals for more of his career over someone who barely has a couple goals to rub together before today. We've been crying out for someone of quality up front, we did have RVP and he scored loads because he was top class, what we need is another goalscorer who will not only score goals but will be around for a good few years, not another Wellbeck/Giroud type who's not done anything for most of his career.

Higuain, Lewandowski and Griezmann are far better and more logical options for us, we didn't get Suarez (and I didn't really want him here due to his nastyness) but had we got him you can't tell me Wenger would have stopped him scoring goals, he would have scored as he's top class.

[Özim]

I'm not sure, that momentum is something that seems to work for, rather than against him. It seemed to be once he was forced to take time out last season with injury, he really struggled to get back into the groove. Previously his schedule had been non-stop yet had little or no effect on his output. There aren't many players with the energy and work rate of Alexis, so I think he has to be thought about and managed differently too.

Cue hamstring pull in the next game...

Too much football affects players just as much, quite often after a big tournament players come back stale and don't perform so I'd say TG has a point.

[Bumble]

I don't get your love for Vardy to be honest, it's not like he's scored goals his whole career, Leicester have just had an exceptional season and he's scored a decent amount of goals, that's not unexpected, but at the end of the day he's 29, would be moving to a new club and before last season really his record was very average, it's not like he's been consistently scoring and this includes a lower level to the PL.

It's very feasible that next season the goals will dry up for him.

As for him not being able to be influenced by Wenger, the manager makes all the decisions and if you don't play like he wants you to he'll drop you, if Vardy comes (and he doesn't seem keen, another reason not to sign him) like every other player he'll bend over backward to please his new dad because they all do.

We all know the manager is the problem, but i'd prefer someone who's top class and has scored goals for more of his career over someone who barely has a couple goals to rub together before today. We've been crying out for someone of quality up front, we did have RVP and he scored loads because he was top class, what we need is another goalscorer who will not only score goals but will be around for a good few years, not another Wellbeck/Giroud type who's not done anything for most of his career.

Higuain, Lewandowski and Griezmann are far better and more logical options for us, we didn't get Suarez (and I didn't really want him here due to his nastyness) but had we got him you can't tell me Wenger would have stopped him scoring goals, he would have scored as he's top class.

Based on what you say you about Vardy you would have rejected and moaned about us signing Ian Wright back in the 90s. He joined us when he was at 28 and scored 28 goals in his last 72 league games for Palace before joining us. Yet he turned out ok, so why not Vardy.

[Power n Glory]

Based on what you say you about Vardy you would have rejected and moaned about us signing Ian Wright back in the 90s. He joined us when he was at 28 and scored 28 goals in his last 72 league games for Palace before joining us. Yet he turned out ok, so why not Vardy.

That was the early 90s. Expectations were different and the league was different. Name a situation in modern game or where we've done this under Wenger and it's been a success.