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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    I think that's the statement he's trying to make. It all links back to value in the market. He could have just said Giroud is a quality player and left it at that.

    There are plenty out there better than Giroud and more suited to our style but clubs are unwilling to sell unless they are paid a ridiculous fee that's hard to turn down.


    This!

    We won't be signing a new striker because AW prioritises market valuation over the needs of the team, there I said it!

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    Who knows what we will do, it's really not a buyers market

    35m for Batshuayi ?

    The problem really is that even if we were prepared to make bold moves in the transfer market, imagine if we bid 60m for Aubemeyang or Lukaku....are they really going to want to come to us?....or will they hold on for something bigger?.

    And yes although it doesn't need saying, i will say it anyway.....it's because the manager is a drag factor...players don't see him as a cutting edge top coach anymore they just don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by selassie View Post


    This!

    We won't be signing a new striker because AW prioritises market valuation over the needs of the team, there I said it!
    That's about right. Economist first, football manager thirteenth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    Who knows what we will do, it's really not a buyers market

    35m for Batshuayi ?

    The problem really is that even if we were prepared to make bold moves in the transfer market, imagine if we bid 60m for Aubemeyang or Lukaku....are they really going to want to come to us?....or will they hold on for something bigger?.

    And yes although it doesn't need saying, i will say it anyway.....it's because the manager is a drag factor...players don't see him as a cutting edge top coach anymore they just don't.
    It's never really a buyers market though.

    IMO Auba would be difficult to obtain because we're not really an upgrade on Dortmund, it would be a sideways move for him. His next move would be to one of the Elite clubs in Europe.

    Lukaku is obtainable but we would need to be very proactive in our negotiations to prize him away from Everton, I think convincing Lukaku to come would be straight forward, negotiating a fee with Everton would be the hard part.

    I personally think we lack ambition as a club and I don't think we market ourselves that well to players both at home and on the continent. We are a very big club but we quite clearly don't operate like one when it comes to player recruitment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    Who knows what we will do, it's really not a buyers market

    35m for Batshuayi ?

    The problem really is that even if we were prepared to make bold moves in the transfer market, imagine if we bid 60m for Aubemeyang or Lukaku....are they really going to want to come to us?....or will they hold on for something bigger?.

    And yes although it doesn't need saying, i will say it anyway.....it's because the manager is a drag factor...players don't see him as a cutting edge top coach anymore they just don't.
    We don't know what could happen if we laid a pile of cash on the table, we might be told to piss off or we could actually seduce them. One thing we do know is that beating around the bush hasn't got us anywhere. Now we have the money it's time to be a little more pro active. Players aren't going to magically fall into our laps.

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    Janssen close to joining Spurs. Fee might be around £20m. I hope he turns out to be utter shite in that case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    Janssen close to joining Spurs. Fee might be around £20m. I hope he turns out to be utter shite in that case.
    The spuds already have Kane. So this is just a sensible move for them. Bring in a young talent and give him the time he needs to acclimatise.

    If Wenger rounds out this transfer window with Giroud sitting pretty as #1 then he'll be, rightly, cursed out of the club. He has a job to do this summer, he gets paid handsomely to do it, so he'd best get on and do it. And if not the he can fuck offget a new 3 year contract from the board.
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    Quote Originally Posted by selassie View Post
    It's never really a buyers market though.

    IMO Auba would be difficult to obtain because we're not really an upgrade on Dortmund, it would be a sideways move for him. His next move would be to one of the Elite clubs in Europe.

    Lukaku is obtainable but we would need to be very proactive in our negotiations to prize him away from Everton, I think convincing Lukaku to come would be straight forward, negotiating a fee with Everton would be the hard part.

    I personally think we lack ambition as a club and I don't think we market ourselves that well to players both at home and on the continent. We are a very big club but we quite clearly don't operate like one when it comes to player recruitment.
    It's all on us. With Vardy we didn't mess around with the bid because it was a straight forward case of matching the release clause. But when it came to contract negations we allowed Leicester to trump our offer. It's all on us. It doesn't look like we're making a solid approach for players. Being cheap as usual. We end up with this Japanese player that isn't worth anything or just bang average otherwise he'd have been sold for a lot more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    It's all on us. With Vardy we didn't mess around with the bid because it was a straight forward case of matching the release clause. But when it came to contract negations we allowed Leicester to trump our offer. It's all on us. It doesn't look like we're making a solid approach for players. Being cheap as usual. We end up with this Japanese player that isn't worth anything or just bang average otherwise he'd have been sold for a lot more.
    Monsieur L'Incompetent dug his heels in over 3 years/ 4 years apparently. This is the sort of shit he does. Like some sort of Rain Man, if the precise details don't tally with his requirements in every way then there is no room for movement. You can almost see him banging a fist off his head, "Oh-ho, of course it should be 3 years and not 4 years. 3 years, Has to be 3 years. Oh, oh, S, T, A, N, of course I need my pencils..."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    Janssen close to joining Spurs. Fee might be around £20m. I hope he turns out to be utter shite in that case.
    They are buying him as back up for Kane, difference between them and us is they have a leading striker we haven't since Van Persie fucked off.

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